jeffl said:

DaveSchmidt said:

joan_crystal said:

Even if Greenway employees were paid more than what is in the contract, they would not be receiving the wages provided in the Union contract.

You’re saying the UFCW may have put a dishonest spin on that sentence’s plain meaning. As a member of a union myself, I give the UFCW more credit than that.

It's in the union's best interest to spin things in their favor. It may be true that union employees do make more, but that may be washed out by union dues. I'm not at all anti-union. But I have worked with some unions that were deceptive towards employees who they wanted to join the union.  In my case, the employees didn't think the potential union benefits were worth it. 

i always find it funny when someone claims that union dues offset the benefits gained by a union contract.  I pay 2.5% dues.  Non union people in my field earn almost the same wages.  But I have a pension.  They do not.  I have an annuity.  They do not.   I have health insurance.  They do not.  And most importantly, I have a job steward I can report safety concerns to and they get addressed.  So yes, I pay dues.

got the QB. My last word was a very common word. Can't believe it took me that long to see it.

Pangram was pure random luck.

Oh look! Gov. DeWine found his spine!

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DeWine takes aim at Trump, Vance over Springfield claims

“I am saddened by how they and others continue to repeat claims that lack evidence and disparage the legal migrants living in Springfield,” DeWine wrote.

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In today's GOP, it's practically a profile in courage.

mrincredible said:

you may think that’s funny but it’s not

Since we are lacking data, we have to fall back on the general condition that, in the aggregate, unions are good for both workers and communities

https://www.epi.org/publication/unions-and-well-being/

Got the QB. First one in a few days without help from Buddy. Good day to go for it. 

nan said:

I don't think he wants to launch a nuclear war, but he did not want to invade Ukraine either. You can't try to logically figure out those things.  You just do what you can to avoid situations where justifications need to be made. The West keeps provoking him and eventually he runs out of patience.  Then bad stuff happens.  Have you never been worn down by a friend or relative that kept harping on you?  That's how I ended up taking ballet and tap dance lessons as a child and it was a miserable experience for all involved.

We've all been there -- your friend just keeps going on and on and, next thing you know, you find yourself in a bloody field with no memory of the past few days, surrounded by an army hailing you as Caesar of the Third Rome and restorer of the historical unity of the Russian and Ukrainian people. Who among us hasn't been forced to launch a massive war from time to time?

jeffl said:

It's in the union's best interest to spin things in their favor. …

The amount of credit you give or don’t give the UFCW is entirely up to you.

DanDietrich said:

i always find it funny when someone claims that union dues offset the benefits gained by a union contract. …

Also, I can be fired only for just cause. My nonunion colleagues don’t have that protection.