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Discussion: The Rose Garden and White House happenings: Listening to voters’ concerns

GoSlugs said:

TOTR said:

While recent petty posts reflect disharmony in the MOL ranks, there is this happening in the political world …

I certainly don't mean to take aim at the messenger but we all agree that shooting dogs is wrong, a consensus that seems to have evaded your party.

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Discussion: What does Putin want (and whatabout it)

PVW said:

nan said:

And so what -- why do you care?  Do you really believe the people in Russia are dreaming of a western invasion to liberate them from a psychotic tyrant?  I'm sure they have lots of complaints but would take him over anyone we would install.  

Relevant to Ukrainians, who have been facing the choice between Russian autocracy and European democracy since independence and who -- to Putin's anger -- keep rejecting the Russian offering.

The whole point of the article on polling, which has been misrepresented as showing "support for Putin", is that the people of Russia aren't allowed to have enough information, to even consider the possibility that the "psychotic tyrant" could be removed. The people of Ukraine did have more information, and deliberately made the choice not to be dominated from Moscow - which is why Putin invaded.

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Discussion: Twitter is a Private Company

Saw this one on Bluesky today.

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Discussion: Inconsequential Chat

Morganna said:

I have a feral kitty who is doing roof and gutter inspections for me.

cat on a cold slate roof.

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Discussion: T**** is your 2024 Republican candidate - OWN IT!

joanne said:

Just thinking about ages, behaviour, mannerisms etc…. A couple of days ago I read this article (I’m sure you read or saw similar), and was startled that Mark Hammill is 72. 
https://www.theguardian.com/film/article/2024/may/03/mark-hamill-joe-biden-hollywood  There’s another good one in France 24, and other international media. 

Just 10 years younger than Joe Biden. And just a coupla years younger than the candidate sitting in court rooms and featuring in daily news bulletins and satirical late nights programs. 

Gosh. Kinda throws adult behaviour into sharp perspective, doesn’t it??

This guy is one year younger than Biden and 3 years older than Trump and doing a 16 city tour of the US and Canada over the next couple of months.

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Discussion: What does Putin want (and whatabout it)

nan said:

You don't know if he spoke with them or not. He implies he gave them and opportunity to respond. We know they did not respond denying something.

I asked nan twice in this thread for her source for stating that Ukrainians were divided half and half by language before Russia’s 2022 invasion. Nan didn’t respond. I can now ethically and responsibly report that nan did not deny she posted a falsehood.

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Discussion: The Rose Garden and White House happenings: Listening to voters’ concerns

These examples are so rare I feel they're worth highlighting -- some Republicans show that they can put country before Party:

Geoff Duncan, Georgia Republican, says he will vote for Biden (NYT)

Geoff Duncan, a Republican who was lieutenant governor of Georgia when then-President Donald J. Trump tried to overturn the 2020 election results there, endorsed President Biden for re-election on Monday.

“I am voting for a decent person I disagree with on policy over a criminal defendant without a moral compass,” Mr. Duncan wrote in an opinion piece in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

https://www.ajc.com/opinion/geoff-duncan-why-im-voting-for-biden-and-other-republicans-should-too/LFLE5YWCBBA6VDGJAJKMNPCDKQ/

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Discussion: What does Putin want (and whatabout it)

nan said:

Well, we will see.

Speaking of fresh perspectives …

nan said:

The Russians also say they have evidence that the UK blew up Nordstream. So the UK is in hot water right now. We will see over the next few weeks what happens.

nan said:

They do not have enough fuel to run those countries. It is a disaster. It is failed leadership. The Western media is not telling the truth about the resources available. We will see how it goes this winter.

nan said:

I don't think they will announce war--I think they will only upgrade to an anti-terrorist operation. That's the next step up from SMO. Full war would require a much larger mobilization. But, no one is checking in for my approval so we will see.

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Discussion: Inconsequential Chat

I have a feral kitty who is doing roof and gutter inspections for me.

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Discussion: The Rose Garden and White House happenings: Listening to voters’ concerns

nohero said:

PVW said:

The Nazis were famously against the wanton killing of tens of thousands of civilians.

They were more organized and methodical rather than wanton.

Big men, strong men, tears in their eyes, would come up the fuhrer and say, sir, that was a beautiful speech you gave. Some people say the most beautiful speech ever given. They won't tell you this, but lots of celebrities, famous writers, they all agree, no one could give those kinds of speeches. And the windmills. Wanton killing of birds. Thousands of birds. And toilets can't flush. Sleepy Chamberlain. Sleepy Churchill.

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