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Jaytee
Discussion: Inconsequential Chat

Rock on!!

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ml1
Discussion: The Rose Garden and White House happenings: Listening to voters’ concerns

drummerboy said:

GoSlugs said:

mtierney said:

What happened on university campuses across the country by undereducated “students” - the generation of kids who were denied high school normalcy and proms and  graduations, and attended classes in a vacuum on Zoom — and who revealed themselves to be  as dumb as rocks in understanding the history of the USA and any other country for that matter.

Your posts here clearly demonstrate that it is you who in undereducated, not the students. You literally spend your days posting factual distortions, misunderstandings and out right lies.

yeah, that comment by mt reveals so much. 

She blames a few months of Zoom classes for an "undereducated" generation of students. She's repeated this talking point many times already.

mt, please tell us how they're dumb as rocks regarding history? What do they get wrong that apparently you think that you get right?

Why do you hate these kids so much? They're protesting the deaths of 10's of thousands of innocent civilians that the US is complicit in. Don't they deserve some credit for that? Even if you don't approve of very tactic?

Why do you think there are "outside agitators"? The right always blames protests they don't agree with on outside actors? But has there ever been any proof of their allegations? I think "never" is the right answer there.

Can you do some independent thinking here? Use some compassion and empathy instead of mindlessly repeating talking points?

there are a couple of things we can stipulate to. First, that Oct 7 was an atrocity worthy of outrage and strict condemnation. Second, there is no doubt a segment of the pro-Palestinian demonstrations that is anti-semitic (no doubt there is also a segment of pro-Israel supporters who are anti-semitic as well. Unfortunately there's a lot of anti-semitism in this country all around).

but the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians, mostly women and children and the resulting humanitarian crisis is its own atrocity. The vast majority of people protesting just want the mass killings and maiming to stop.

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ml1
Discussion: The NYT Spelling Bee Thread

got the QB with the hints today. Did not need the Buddy however.

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tjohn
Discussion: What does Putin want (and whatabout it)

As PVW has noted, even if we accept all of Nan's claims about U.S. actions in Ukraine (she has conveniently established that these need not be factual), it still does not justify Putin's War.

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mrincredible
Discussion: Black Bear wandering around Lower Wyoming

Here’s a pic from the Glenside Rd sighting.

Lots of wooded area to traverse in that neighborhood. And I agree the noise from the kids would likely scare the bear away from the recess area. But in the one in a million chance that things could go sideways, I can see why caution is the way to go. 


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nohero
Discussion: What does Putin want (and whatabout it)

The Sakwa quote is about how Russia rejects the concept of democracy and national self-determination. That is the reason for hostility to, and in some cases active undermining of, democracy among former Soviet republics and satellite countries.

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nohero
Discussion: What does Putin want (and whatabout it)

nan said:

Putin wanted to join the European Union.

He might have had difficulty with some of the basic requirements. 
”Countries wishing to join need to have: stable institutions guaranteeing democracy, the rule of law, human rights and respect for and protection of minorities;”

https://neighbourhood-enlargement.ec.europa.eu/enlargement-policy/conditions-membership_en

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    PVW
    Discussion: What does Putin want (and whatabout it)

    nan said:


    Facts don't always tell the whole story.   Sometimes the whole story makes the facts irrelevant. 

    Paging Kellyanne Conway...

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    tjohn
    Discussion: The Rose Garden and White House happenings: Listening to voters’ concerns

    mtierney said:

    Question I have is why another Democratic alternative cannot be considered, albeit the November election is looming. Is it really all about Kamala Harris and the prospect of her stepping into —(two scenarios come to mind) —%the role as our  first female president? Her poll numbers have been so consistently poor, she could never win an election on her own merits.

    Do you even care?

    I think most rational people are wondering why we can't do better than the two fossils we have now, but it seems that it is what it is.

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    nohero
    Discussion: The Rose Garden and White House happenings: Listening to voters’ concerns

    ml1 said:

    mtierney said:

    If indeed some outside agencies and   agitators —which appears likely — were stirring the pot (who paid for all those pop-up tents?) then the consequences can be shared, but in no way should the students get a pass for being gullible in the extreme. 

    How much do you think a pop-up tent costs? You can get one on Amazon for under $40 and have it delivered in two days. (h/t John Oliver)

    "Who paid for the tents?" is another one of those "IT'S GEORGE SOROS" rants.

    Because the ranters are so unhinged that they freely use old antisemitic tropes at the same time they're calling all the protesters antisemitic.

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