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Rock on!!

got the QB with the hints today. Did not need the Buddy however.

As PVW has noted, even if we accept all of Nan's claims about U.S. actions in Ukraine (she has conveniently established that these need not be factual), it still does not justify Putin's War.

drummerboy said:

GoSlugs said:

mtierney said:

What happened on university campuses across the country by undereducated “students” - the generation of kids who were denied high school normalcy and proms and  graduations, and attended classes in a vacuum on Zoom — and who revealed themselves to be  as dumb as rocks in understanding the history of the USA and any other country for that matter.

Your posts here clearly demonstrate that it is you who in undereducated, not the students. You literally spend your days posting factual distortions, misunderstandings and out right lies.

yeah, that comment by mt reveals so much. 

She blames a few months of Zoom classes for an "undereducated" generation of students. She's repeated this talking point many times already.

mt, please tell us how they're dumb as rocks regarding history? What do they get wrong that apparently you think that you get right?

Why do you hate these kids so much? They're protesting the deaths of 10's of thousands of innocent civilians that the US is complicit in. Don't they deserve some credit for that? Even if you don't approve of very tactic?

Why do you think there are "outside agitators"? The right always blames protests they don't agree with on outside actors? But has there ever been any proof of their allegations? I think "never" is the right answer there.

Can you do some independent thinking here? Use some compassion and empathy instead of mindlessly repeating talking points?

there are a couple of things we can stipulate to. First, that Oct 7 was an atrocity worthy of outrage and strict condemnation. Second, there is no doubt a segment of the pro-Palestinian demonstrations that is anti-semitic (no doubt there is also a segment of pro-Israel supporters who are anti-semitic as well. Unfortunately there's a lot of anti-semitism in this country all around).

but the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians, mostly women and children and the resulting humanitarian crisis is its own atrocity. The vast majority of people protesting just want the mass killings and maiming to stop.

nan said:

Putin wanted to join the European Union.

He might have had difficulty with some of the basic requirements. 
”Countries wishing to join need to have: stable institutions guaranteeing democracy, the rule of law, human rights and respect for and protection of minorities;”

https://neighbourhood-enlargement.ec.europa.eu/enlargement-policy/conditions-membership_en

nan said:

Facts don't always tell the whole story.   Sometimes the whole story makes the facts irrelevant. 

Paging Kellyanne Conway...

mtierney said:

Question I have is why another Democratic alternative cannot be considered, albeit the November election is looming. Is it really all about Kamala Harris and the prospect of her stepping into —(two scenarios come to mind) —%the role as our  first female president? Her poll numbers have been so consistently poor, she could never win an election on her own merits.

Do you even care?

I think most rational people are wondering why we can't do better than the two fossils we have now, but it seems that it is what it is.

ml1 said:

mtierney said:

If indeed some outside agencies and   agitators —which appears likely — were stirring the pot (who paid for all those pop-up tents?) then the consequences can be shared, but in no way should the students get a pass for being gullible in the extreme. 

How much do you think a pop-up tent costs? You can get one on Amazon for under $40 and have it delivered in two days. (h/t John Oliver)

"Who paid for the tents?" is another one of those "IT'S GEORGE SOROS" rants.

Because the ranters are so unhinged that they freely use old antisemitic tropes at the same time they're calling all the protesters antisemitic.

nan said:

Yeah, I have such a good time here on MOL, I want to get attacked by a mob at Words Bookstore (which I frequently visit).

What you want is this: You want everybody to accept your sources at face value while you write off everyone else’s at face value. You want to be able to call others here whiny, confused neocons while you bridle at the mildest gibes and quotes of your own comments. We’re all free to read, reply or skip as we see fit. So let the good times roll: With any number of easy fixes at your disposal, there’s no reason to be frustrated by wasted time.

GoSlugs said:

Since when is "taunting the cops" a crime?  I think that falls pretty squarely under "freedom of speech".

I worded that poorly. I was thinking of the hurled bottles and physical engagement. But if you are told to vacate the area and you do not, taunting the cops or not, you will get arrested. I got arrested for politely refusing to leave Cornell voluntarily. It was explained to me that I would be arrested, and I went peacefully. Why would I taunt the police? They weren't torturing and killing the cats. And in this case, they aren't engaged in the war in Gaza.

Just my point of view that if you care deeply about your cause, you don't want to alienate the public.