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Rock on!!

got the QB with the hints today. Did not need the Buddy however.

As PVW has noted, even if we accept all of Nan's claims about U.S. actions in Ukraine (she has conveniently established that these need not be factual), it still does not justify Putin's War.

nan said:

DaveSchmidt said:

To ask it another way: You wouldn’t make each and every one of those concessions, if you had to, in order to save all the lives that have been lost on both sides of the war?

Would you be OK with Russia or China overthrowing our government and installing a puppet?  Do you think it we should just be passive and accept that because someone might get hurt?  How would you feel if your country was taken over for the benefit of another country?

I remember when people thought Trump was a Russian puppet and they were pretty pissed off.  

Absolutely not.  If Russia or China attempted a coup using NGOs and their intelligence agencies, I think the only rational defense would be to invade Canada.

got the QB. It's been a good week :-)

mtierney said:

Meanwhile, back in another NYC courtroom, this is happening…

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/13/nyregion/jury-selection-menendez-trial.html?unlocked_article_code=1.sk0.DT5n.Vti3R1DuVDuJ&smid=url-share

Gold bars were found, concealed into the lining of his suits — really?!

Let everyone know when you find a defense of Menendez in his current legal difficulties by a poster on MOL, or a local Democratic politician, or a NJ Democratic politician, or a national Democratic politician.

The Sakwa quote is about how Russia rejects the concept of democracy and national self-determination. That is the reason for hostility to, and in some cases active undermining of, democracy among former Soviet republics and satellite countries.

nan said:

Putin wanted to join the European Union.

He might have had difficulty with some of the basic requirements. 
”Countries wishing to join need to have: stable institutions guaranteeing democracy, the rule of law, human rights and respect for and protection of minorities;”

https://neighbourhood-enlargement.ec.europa.eu/enlargement-policy/conditions-membership_en

nan said:

Facts don't always tell the whole story.   Sometimes the whole story makes the facts irrelevant. 

Paging Kellyanne Conway...

mtierney said:

Question I have is why another Democratic alternative cannot be considered, albeit the November election is looming. Is it really all about Kamala Harris and the prospect of her stepping into —(two scenarios come to mind) —%the role as our  first female president? Her poll numbers have been so consistently poor, she could never win an election on her own merits.

Do you even care?

I think most rational people are wondering why we can't do better than the two fossils we have now, but it seems that it is what it is.