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Discussion: What does Putin want (and whatabout it)

nan said:

You laugh now. You won't laugh later.

I wasn’t laughing. There’s nothing funny about an advocate of preventive war’s efforts to incite alarm.

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Discussion: What does Putin want (and whatabout it)

nan said:

nohero said:

Russia chose to send its military across the border into Ukraine. That's a fact. Russia could have chosen not to do so, and nobody has presented any facts demonstrating that Russia did not have that choice.

Ukraine, on the other hand, was invaded, and so could choose to defend or surrender, and they chose to defend. Again, that's a fact.

There's no "opinion" that changes the above facts.

This is typical of the mainstream media that often lies with omission.  Let me fix that for you:

In 2014 the US backed a coup in Ukraine and installed an anti-Russian government.  They then fomented war in the Donbas and provoked Putin, hoping he would invade.  This went on for 8 years, during two Minsk agreements which western leaders have now admitted were treated as a joke and to bide time while Ukraine was armed and trained.  The NATO-ization process had begun.

After 8 years and two Minsk agreements broken by the West, and no listenting by the other side, Russia chose to send its military across the border into Ukraine. That's a fact. Russia could have chosen not to do so, and nobody has presented any facts demonstrating that Russia did not have that choice.--except they have -- see first sentence in this paragraph.

Ukraine, on the other hand, was invaded, and so could choose to defend or surrender, and they chose to defend.They had no choice in this matter as the West, who controlled their government decided to use them as a proxy against Russia. Boris Johnson flew in and stopped the peace negotiations and told Zelensky that he was going to fight and they were sending weapons.  Again, that's a fact.

There's no "opinion" that changes the above facts.

puhleeze look up the definition of "fact"

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Discussion: What does Putin want (and whatabout it)

Russia chose to send its military across the border into Ukraine. That's a fact. Russia could have chosen not to do so, and nobody has presented any facts demonstrating that Russia did not have that choice.

Ukraine, on the other hand, was invaded, and so could choose to defend or surrender, and they chose to defend. Again, that's a fact.

There's no "opinion" that changes the above facts.

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Discussion: Hot with Thunderstorms & Air Quality Alert Today 6/14/24

Friday June 14th

Happy Flag Day

Today, hot and sunny with thunderstorms this afternoon

Air Quality Alert for excessive ozone today, sensitive individuals should take precautions

Temps in the low 90⁰s. Thunderstorms possible after 2pm and likely from 5 - 8. Slight chance that a storm might be severe, with heavy rain and wind. Clearing after 8pm

Weekend will be clear dry and warm with Temps in the 80⁰s

By the middle of next week we could be looking at the first heatwave of the season, with Temps in the 90⁰s likely every day from Tuesday through Saturday

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...AIR QUALITY ALERT IN EFFECT FROM 11 AM THIS MORNING TO 11 PM EDT

THIS EVENING...

The New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection has issued an

Air Quality Action Day for the following counties:

Bergen, Passaic, Hudson, Essex, and Union,

from 11 AM to 11 PM EDT Friday.

An Air Quality Action Day means that Ground Level Ozone within the

region may approach or exceed unhealthy standards.

For additional information, please visit the New Jersey Department

of Environmental Protection Web site at http://www.njaqinow.net

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Discussion: HEAT WAVE

June 17th, 2024

Heat Wave

The NWS has issued a Heat Advisory starting Tuesday for our area. Excessive heat should continue through at least Friday.

Today, warm, clear, and dry with a high in the upper 80s.

Tuesday through Friday, a building upper ridge will drive daytime temperatures into the low to mid 90⁰s each day. A southern wind will bring some humidity, and take the heat index ("feels like temperature") to the mid to upper 90⁰s. The same southern breeze will keep the nighttime lows in the upper 60⁰s or 70⁰s here in MAPSO.

Warm weather could continue through the weekend and into next week, although a cold front might bring some relief over the weekend (along with showers).

A heat wave is defined as heat index temperatures over 95⁰ for three or more days (this definition is location specific a heat wave in Texas is hotter than one in Maine. The use of the heat index takes humidity into account).

I expect that, in New Jersey, will will come close or break some June heat records this week. Please be mindful of the heat. Stay cool. Stay in the shade, and indoors during the midday heat. Check on the elderly and disabled, check on your neighbors. Drink plenty of fluids.

Because of the sea breeze, temperatures will be hotter in MAPSO than in the city, and likely hotter here than at the airport. Most apps report the airport temperature, so if your local thermometer says 97⁰ and the app says 92⁰, believe your thermometer not the app.

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Discussion: What series should I watch next?

If anyone missed Your Honor with Bryan Cranston on HBO - it's on Netflix now.

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Discussion: The Uncaged Bird -The Pool Is Open!

I: asked this fledgling Robin why he was sitting on my hammock. The cheeky bird explained, "Branches are so last year."

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Discussion: What does Putin want (and whatabout it)

nan said:

PVW said:

nan said:

PVW said:

nan said:

Not after they saw the agreement.  They did do some sanctions (not like cutting off SWIFT).  But, in general they were OK with Ukraine joining the EU (even NATO stated that), but they did not like that agreement--it caused some alarm.  They talked to Ukraine and explained why they did not like the offer and what it might mean for Ukraine and they offered a better counterdeal than previous.  

They offered a deal, with the threat of further sanctions if they didn't agree. And when Ukrainians took to the streets, Russia prepared a military response.

This line -- "they did not like that agreement" -- gives the game away. WTF does it matter if Russia liked the deal or not? Oh, right -- because Russia believes itself entitled to control Ukraine. That's what this is about. It's always been what this is about.

Where is the evidence of a military response?

Um, Russia invaded Crimea?

They invaded Crimea after the 2014 coup.  We were talking about before the coup when Ukraine still had sovereignty.

Ukraine's elected legislature voted to remove Yanukovych on Feb 22. Russia invaded Ukraine on Feb 27. It takes more than a few days to plan for and prepare a major military operation -- obviously Russia had already prepped for military action against Ukraine prior to Feb 22.

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Discussion: The Rose Garden and White House happenings: Listening to voters’ concerns

Smedley said:

In general I think if a video isn't what it seems due to sleight of hand, it's on the person who's making that claim to make the case.

Well, I can see things will go well for you in our new AI-powered future. Please at least double check before sending anyone any money.

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Discussion: The Rose Garden and White House happenings: Listening to voters’ concerns

I blame Rupert Murdoch, publisher of lies who has poisoned and divided the world against itself, is intentionally publishing falsehoods about President Biden. Yet nothing about Trump's very public mental decline. Murdoch is the same man who helped sell a lie to promote the Iraq war based on false pretexts. He even publicly undermined vaccines while racing ahead of everyone else to get his, yeah I blame him for the mess we’re in. He should be deported. He’s a threat to our national security.

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