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Rock on!!

got the QB with the hints today. Did not need the Buddy however.

As PVW has noted, even if we accept all of Nan's claims about U.S. actions in Ukraine (she has conveniently established that these need not be factual), it still does not justify Putin's War.

nan said:

DaveSchmidt said:

To ask it another way: You wouldn’t make each and every one of those concessions, if you had to, in order to save all the lives that have been lost on both sides of the war?

Would you be OK with Russia or China overthrowing our government and installing a puppet?  Do you think it we should just be passive and accept that because someone might get hurt?  How would you feel if your country was taken over for the benefit of another country?

I remember when people thought Trump was a Russian puppet and they were pretty pissed off.  

Absolutely not.  If Russia or China attempted a coup using NGOs and their intelligence agencies, I think the only rational defense would be to invade Canada.

GoSlugs said:

Since when is "taunting the cops" a crime?  I think that falls pretty squarely under "freedom of speech".

I worded that poorly. I was thinking of the hurled bottles and physical engagement. But if you are told to vacate the area and you do not, taunting the cops or not, you will get arrested. I got arrested for politely refusing to leave Cornell voluntarily. It was explained to me that I would be arrested, and I went peacefully. Why would I taunt the police? They weren't torturing and killing the cats. And in this case, they aren't engaged in the war in Gaza.

Just my point of view that if you care deeply about your cause, you don't want to alienate the public. 

saw this truck(?) in Springfield and thought... it couldn't get any uglier

nan said:

drummerboy said:

what other choice did he have?

are you effing kidding us?

if he had chosen peace and not war, what do you think would have happened to Russia? To RUSSIA, not to him.

Learn the difference.

Russia would have been destroyed. 

Exactly how.

No shots would have been fired.

No Russian territory would have been occupied.  Ukrainian territory occupied by Russia would have remained occupied.

You are effectively mocking countries that have undergone real existential crises and survived - Poland, Germany, the Baltics, Finland, etc., etc.

Beautiful critter.

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It's ok -- at some point in the future, someone on this thread might say something you find upsetting. In the face of such an existential threat to MOL, we understand you had no choice but to try and destroy this thread.