Trump banned from Twitter permanently

Every former POTUS managed to communicate without Twitter. Many communicated very well and effectively before the invention of radio and TV.

If he has something to say he ought to call a Press Conference.


He still a Twitter account. 2 in fact. @potus and @whitehouse are still there.


ridski said:

He still a Twitter account. 2 in fact. @potus and @whitehouse are still there.

From NYT:

Mr. Trump tried to evade the ban late Friday by using the @POTUS Twitter account, which belongs to sitting U.S. presidents, as well as other accounts to lash out at the company. But almost all of his messages were almost immediately removed by Twitter. The company forbids users to try avoiding a suspension with secondary accounts.

DaveSchmidt said:

ridski said:

He still a Twitter account. 2 in fact. @potus and @whitehouse are still there.

From NYT:

Mr. Trump tried to evade the ban late Friday by using the @POTUS Twitter account, which belongs to sitting U.S. presidents, as well as other accounts to lash out at the company. But almost all of his messages were almost immediately removed by Twitter. The company forbids users to try avoiding a suspension with secondary accounts.

 Twitter said that it will not suspend the @POTUS account because it will be available to Biden after he is sworn in. 


STANV said:

Every former POTUS managed to communicate without Twitter. Many communicated very well and effectively before the invention of radio and TV.

If he has something to say he ought to call a Press Conference.

This is one of the best arguments that Trump's speech isn't curtailed by a Twitter ban. He could call a press conference in two minutes and be broadcast around the globe. 

At any rate Twitter is a private company. If I owned a bullhorn-renting company and I rented a bullhorn to someone who then stood in Times Square and spewed a bunch of stuff I didn't like, I could refuse to rent him a bullhorn ever again. It's got nothing to do with the content.


mrincredible said:

STANV said:

Every former POTUS managed to communicate without Twitter. Many communicated very well and effectively before the invention of radio and TV.

If he has something to say he ought to call a Press Conference.

This is one of the best arguments that Trump's speech isn't curtailed by a Twitter ban. He could call a press conference in two minutes and be broadcast around the globe. 

At any rate Twitter is a private company. If I owned a bullhorn-renting company and I rented a bullhorn to someone who then stood in Times Square and spewed a bunch of stuff I didn't like, I could refuse to rent him a bullhorn ever again. It's got nothing to do with the content.

Twitter is a public company, but your argument is still valid.

And you know what? Alphabet (Google) and Apple are also public companies, and together they control 99% of the software platforms for smartphones in the US. And it is fully within their right to require social media apps to have some content moderation plan or otherwise ban them. Which is exactly what they just did with Parler, which positioned itself as Twitter without rules, and was therefore attracting right wingers kicked off of Twitter. And guess what, if Trump comes up with his own platform/app, they will do exactly the same.


Company towns and private malls have been ruled to be, depending on the court and jurisdiction, public squares subject to First Amendment protections. In a case pending before the Supreme Court (Knight First Amendment Institute v. Trump), lower federal courts ruled that Trump couldn’t block Twitter users, because Twitter is a public forum.

In other words, the argument that because Twitter is a company it can do what it wants is not so cut and dried.


DaveSchmidt said:

Company towns and private malls have been ruled to be, depending on the court and jurisdiction, public squares subject to First Amendment protections. In a case pending before the Supreme Court (Knight First Amendment Institute v. Trump), lower federal courts have ruled that Trump can’t block Twitter users because Twitter is a public forum.

In other words, the argument that because Twitter is a company it can do what it wants is not so cut and dried.

 You're misreading Knight.  It's that Trump as a government official is restricted in blocking people, not that Twitter is restricted.


Steve said:

 You're misreading Knight.  It's that Trump as a government official is restricted in blocking people, not that Twitter is restricted.

I could easily be misreading it, so thank you. What struck me was the Second Circuit’s affirmation that the dialogue on Twitter “creates a public forum.”

If my larger point is also off base — that it’s not a given that Twitter is immune to First Amendment protections — I welcome your and others’ input as well.


DaveSchmidt said:

Steve said:

 You're misreading Knight.  It's that Trump as a government official is restricted in blocking people, not that Twitter is restricted.

I could easily be misreading it, so thank you. What struck me was the Second Circuit’s affirmation that the dialogue on Twitter “creates a public forum.”

If my larger point is also off base — that it’s not a given that Twitter is immune to First Amendment protections — I welcome your and others’ input as well.

What's important to remember is who is doing the redacting - Twitter or the government. Twitter can, government can't.

I don't think the "public forum" aspect really plays into the decision here. It doesn't appear to be necessary to reach the decision the court reached. 


DaveSchmidt said:

I could easily be misreading it, so thank you. What struck me was the Second Circuit’s affirmation that the dialogue on Twitter “creates a public forum.”

If my larger point is also off base — that it’s not a given that Twitter is immune to First Amendment protections — I welcome your and others’ input as well.

 It's only a public forum when the government official is speaking.


More from the legal team of Wrong, Schmidt, Cut & Dried:

Can Twitter Legally Bar Trump? The First Amendment Says Yes (NYT)


I hope Jamie is keeping a sharp eye out for any new posters.  


That would the same phone he uses weekly to call Fox and Friends for his one hour rants, wouldn’t it?


ridski said:

That would the same phone he uses weekly to call Fox and Friends for his one hour rants, wouldn’t it?

Good point, he is now going to call in for the whole show, every day


nohero said:

I hope Jamie is keeping a sharp eye out for any new posters.  

Spotify? 


ml1 said:

Spotify? 

 Spotify run a lot of podcasts. Although I did run a quick search and found no evidence of Spotify banning Trump.


Maybe somebody knows the answer to an idle curious question. Could his cell phone service provider cut off his service if he was using the phone in a way that violated the Terms of Service? Like if they determined he was using it for something illegal?


I would think that a cell phone provider could cut off service to someone using his phone for harassment or for Child porn.


mrincredible said:

Maybe somebody knows the answer to an idle curious question. Could his cell phone service provider cut off his service if he was using the phone in a way that violated the Terms of Service? Like if they determined he was using it for something illegal?

 It’ll be like in The Wire, he’ll be sending Eric out to buy a bunch of burner phones 


Trump is on Parler. 


I wonder if he'll end up saying enough to get the Senate to convict him.

ETA -- or get the 25th invoked. Then, having lost presidential immunity, arrested like any other criminal.


spontaneous said:

 It’ll be like in The Wire, he’ll be sending Eric out to buy a bunch of burner phones 

 Thank you. This thought gives me joy.



Did Nunes get his Medal of Freedom yet?


jamie said:

Did Nunes get his Medal of Freedom yet?

 Maybe. But how could we possibly find out? Trump has been silenced by the Soros-funded left wing antifa communist BLM fascist Orwellian media.


nohero said:

terp said:

ml1 said:

terp said:

 What are you 12?

Your comments from the last few days aren't going to age well. 

Quick quiz - Which MOL poster sounds the most like Michael Malice?

Why I won't vote this year – or any year

By Michael Malice

I rarely tell people that I don’t believe in voting. Participation in the body politic is widely considered to be both a privilege and an imperative to the enlightened urban citizen. To choose otherwise is quite literally heresy – and heretics by and large have a difficult time of it in society.
...

Answer:

The poster who recommended the "Why I won't vote" article. From that link:

terp said:

What an odd non sequitur. Anyhoo, This is a much better piece on not voting

 

 Thank you! 


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