Trump banned from Twitter permanently

terp said:

Steve said:

No ****.  But the GOP, led by the POTUS with FoxNews and the other right-wing echo chambers have done so much more damage through disinformation campaigns then the government ever did. Government disinformation campaigns ultimately get revealed and acknowledged; those idiots still believe that there was fraud, etc. 

 You don't think there was any fraud?  Zero? No irregularities?

You didn't buy into the Russia nonsense?

BTW: I can't find reference to Trump directing his minions to have at it at the inauguration.  Do you have a source for that?

 There is fraud in every election in the way that the USDA permits a certain amount of rat hair in nutmeg.  Do you stop putting nutmeg in your eggnog?  No.  Do you egg on nutjobs because of a fragile ego?  No.


terp said:

Steve said:

No ****.  But the GOP, led by the POTUS with FoxNews and the other right-wing echo chambers have done so much more damage through disinformation campaigns then the government ever did. Government disinformation campaigns ultimately get revealed and acknowledged; those idiots still believe that there was fraud, etc. 

 You don't think there was any fraud?  Zero? No irregularities?

You didn't buy into the Russia nonsense?

BTW: I can't find reference to Trump directing his minions to have at it at the inauguration.  Do you have a source for that?

oh please. no irregularities to make a damn bit of difference. at all. Nothing out of the ordinary. The biggest irregularity was the attempt to kill USPS, apart from the standard attempts by R's to restrict voting rights.

That's what you should be worried about.

Do you seriously believe even one piece of nonsense coming out of the Trump camp regarding the elections?

Which ones?

Enlighten us.


drummerboy said:

Steve said:

No ****.  But the GOP, led by the POTUS with FoxNews and the other right-wing echo chambers have done so much more damage through disinformation campaigns then the government ever did. Government disinformation campaigns ultimately get revealed and acknowledged; those idiots still believe that there was fraud, etc. 

 This ^^^^^

 Government disinformation campaigns aided by corporate media result in hundreds of thousands of deaths.  If you want to silence anyone for inciting violence than the NY Times should be burnt to the ground.  


drummerboy said:

terp said:

Steve said:

No ****.  But the GOP, led by the POTUS with FoxNews and the other right-wing echo chambers have done so much more damage through disinformation campaigns then the government ever did. Government disinformation campaigns ultimately get revealed and acknowledged; those idiots still believe that there was fraud, etc. 

 You don't think there was any fraud?  Zero? No irregularities?

You didn't buy into the Russia nonsense?

BTW: I can't find reference to Trump directing his minions to have at it at the inauguration.  Do you have a source for that?

oh please. no irregularities to make a damn bit of difference. at all. Nothing out of the ordinary. The biggest irregularity was the attempt to kill USPS, apart from the standard attempts by R's to restrict voting rights.

That's what you should be worried about.

Do you seriously believe even one piece of nonsense coming out of the Trump camp regarding the elections?

Which ones?

Enlighten us.

 And your not even just a little tribal?


terp said:

drummerboy said:

terp said:

Steve said:

No ****.  But the GOP, led by the POTUS with FoxNews and the other right-wing echo chambers have done so much more damage through disinformation campaigns then the government ever did. Government disinformation campaigns ultimately get revealed and acknowledged; those idiots still believe that there was fraud, etc. 

 You don't think there was any fraud?  Zero? No irregularities?

You didn't buy into the Russia nonsense?

BTW: I can't find reference to Trump directing his minions to have at it at the inauguration.  Do you have a source for that?

oh please. no irregularities to make a damn bit of difference. at all. Nothing out of the ordinary. The biggest irregularity was the attempt to kill USPS, apart from the standard attempts by R's to restrict voting rights.

That's what you should be worried about.

Do you seriously believe even one piece of nonsense coming out of the Trump camp regarding the elections?

Which ones?

Enlighten us.

 And your not even just a little tribal?

The fact that I have not been swayed by one piece of bullsh!t "evidence" makes me tribal? That I don't believe Sydney Powell or Giuliani or Lin Wood or any of those numb nuts?

Hokay.....

Anyway, I posed a question. Convince us.


I get it. My disagreeing with you makes me tribal.

Glad we cleared that up.


drummerboy said:

I get it. My disagreeing with you makes me tribal.

Glad we cleared that up.

 It's not that.  And I'm not asking you to believe that the irregularities swayed the election or even existed.   What I'm saying is that after 2016 why would you throw people ipunder the bus after losing a close election.  You were latching on to some wacky theories.

 4 years ago, everyone was crying foul, and now the election process is flawless.  So, what did Trump completely reform our election processes to perfection?


ml1 said:

terp said:

 What are you 12?

Your comments from the last few days aren't going to age well. 


YouTube essentially announces that anyone that questions the election results will get a hard strike.

The election is confirmed, but you can't discuss evidence of fraud?  People are comfortable with this?


terp said:

 4 years ago, everyone was crying foul, and now the election process is flawless.  So, what did Trump completely reform our election processes to perfection?

Foul was cried. Transition proceeded without hiccup.


terp said:

drummerboy said:

I get it. My disagreeing with you makes me tribal.

Glad we cleared that up.

 It's not that.  And I'm not asking you to believe that the irregularities swayed the election or even existed.   What I'm saying is that after 2016 why would you throw people ipunder the bus after losing a close election.  You were latching on to some wacky theories.

 4 years ago, everyone was crying foul, and now the election process is flawless.  So, what did Trump completely reform our election processes to perfection?

 your memories of 2016 are quite flawed.

but it explains a lot.


terp said:

The election is confirmed, but you can't discuss evidence of fraud?  People are comfortable with this?

Fraud discussed. People comfortable with conclusions.


terp said:

YouTube essentially announces that anyone that questions the election results will get a hard strike.

The election is confirmed, but you can't discuss evidence of fraud?  People are comfortable with this?

 terp,

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF FRAUD

NONE

ZERO

ZIP

NADA

NIL

NIENTE

but again, if you have any....


also, no one (of any import anyway) was crying "fraud" in 2016. Thinking that Russia may have influenced the election through disinformation is not accusing anyone of fraud.


DaveSchmidt said:

terp said:

The election is confirmed, but you can't discuss evidence of fraud?  People are comfortable with this?

Fraud discussed. People comfortable with conclusions.

Good channelling 


drummerboy said:

also, no one (of any import anyway) was crying "fraud" in 2016. Thinking that Russia may have influenced the election through disinformation is not accusing anyone of fraud.

 Oh ya.  You were methodically reviewing the facts.  Is that right?  I'm not stupid.  I was here. You were  all....




if that's what you remember, fine, but you're wrong. No one claimed any kind of fraud.

but again, if you can show us otherwise...

(you're not too good at that last part, I'm finding out)


terp said:

Steve said:

No ****.  But the GOP, led by the POTUS with FoxNews and the other right-wing echo chambers have done so much more damage through disinformation campaigns then the government ever did. Government disinformation campaigns ultimately get revealed and acknowledged; those idiots still believe that there was fraud, etc. 

 You don't think there was any fraud?  Zero? No irregularities?

You didn't buy into the Russia nonsense?

BTW: I can't find reference to Trump directing his minions to have at it at the inauguration.  Do you have a source for that?

The only evidence of potential fraud that I've seen so far were reports of three Republicans trying to or actually voting in their dead mother's names.  Errors, sure.  They typically occur without impacting the results.  What evidence do you have that there was fraud?

As for the inauguration, read his final tweets in context.


From what I remember - Trump was the leader in claiming fraud in 2016 - he constantly claimed he won the popular count.

https://www.factcheck.org/2016/10/trumps-bogus-voter-fraud-claims/


terp said:

Good channelling 

Caught again. Any way I can post that portrait larger? 


DaveSchmidt said:

terp said:

Good channelling 

Caught again. Any way I can post that portrait larger? 

 Sure.  Just use the one you hang over your bed.


DaveSchmidt said:

terp said:

Good channelling 

Caught again. Any way I can post that portrait larger? 

Useless trivia:  the original in Tiananmen square is 6m x 4.6m and because of city pollution and weather, the artist Ge Xiaoguang repaints it every year.


terp said:

DaveSchmidt said:

terp said:

The election is confirmed, but you can't discuss evidence of fraud?  People are comfortable with this?

Fraud discussed. People comfortable with conclusions.

Good channelling 

 I prefer mtierney's cats, thank you very much.


terp said:

ml1 said:

terp said:

 What are you 12?

Your comments from the last few days aren't going to age well. 

 that one hasnt aged well already. 

Your posts here in this thread simply demonstrate your willingness to throw reason and logic out the window when you want to make false equivalencies to set the libs straight on their "hypocrisy." That's when you're even trying to make an argument. Most of the comments aren't anything more than snide taunts. 



terp said:

ml1 said:

terp said:

 What are you 12?

Your comments from the last few days aren't going to age well. 

Quick quiz - Which MOL poster sounds the most like Michael Malice?

Why I won't vote this year – or any year

By Michael Malice

I rarely tell people that I don’t believe in voting. Participation in the body politic is widely considered to be both a privilege and an imperative to the enlightened urban citizen. To choose otherwise is quite literally heresy – and heretics by and large have a difficult time of it in society.
...

Answer:

The poster who recommended the "Why I won't vote" article. From that link:

terp said:

What an odd non sequitur. Anyhoo, This is a much better piece on not voting

 


terp said:

 You don't think there was any fraud?  Zero? No irregularities?

You didn't buy into the Russia nonsense?

BTW: I can't find reference to Trump directing his minions to have at it at the inauguration.  Do you have a source for that?

 I imagine you have read them already but in case you didn't these were his last two tweets that caused concern.

I support erring on the side of caution after the riot in the Capitol. I can deal with a little loss of free speech when militia groups are messaging planned action on several platforms. 

Twitter on Saturday morning

“The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!”

And then: “To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.”


Freedom of Speech is an essential Right, but it cannot be absolute.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_T%C3%A9l%C3%A9vision_Libre_des_Mille_Collines#:~:text=Radio%20T%C3%A9l%C3%A9vision%20Libre%20des%20Mille%20Collines%20(RTLM)%20was%20a%20Rwandan,1994%20Genocide%20against%20the%20Tutsi.

If it were absolute I would have been calling on MOL over the last few years for Trump to be assassinated.  His death  would have saved many lives. Of course this is only theoretical.


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