The Trump Indictments

Judge Cannon's latest ruling, regarding jury instructions, looks to be particularly abominable. Not so much for its effect but for her reading of the Presidential Records Act.

Kevin Drum explains.


Kind of funny that in a fraud case involving massive property overvaluation, Trump can’t get anyone to post bond for him because they won’t take his properties as collateral.


here's some interesting detail on Trump's commercial holdings

What Real Estate Does Trump Own in NYC Anyway? (curbed.com)

(now that's interesting. I copied the above URL from the Edge browser, and it automatically converted it to a link when pasted. neat. but how did it do that? magic.)


A couple of consecutive posts from another forum I frequent:

Poster 1:

He says he’s worth billions.

Thirty companies who specialise in betting on how much people might be worth say he isn’t worth anywhere near $500 million.

Poster 2
:

Well there are plenty of rich people around he could ask for money, like Taylor Swift or Nancy Pelosi. Or that E Jean Carroll, she’s doing alright.


The faithful will always help out in whatever way they can. Praying for a miracle…


Thinking about Trump's wealth, and about how much he's on the hook for following the business fraud case, it's interesting to keep in mind that the amount he owes is based on the difference between what he made vs what he would have made had he been honest, plus the interest on that amount.

Given how hard a time he is having raising this money despite his claimed net worth, this tells us is that a very substantial percentage of his wealth was fraudulently acquired. The fraud wasn't just something on the side beyond his legit business; it was central.


Looks like a fire sale going on…


It's all going according to plan


NY Gears Up to Seize Trump Westchester Assets If Fraud Fine Is Unpaid (Bloomberg)


New York state’s $454 million judgment against Donald Trump in a civil fraud lawsuit was formally registered in Westchester County just outside Manhattan, a sign that his properties in the area may be at risk of being seized if the former president fails to post an appeal bond

New York Attorney General Letitia James registered the judgment on March 6, according to the Westchester County Clerk’s online database. The filing didn’t give a reason for the registration or identify any Trump assets, but it will allow James to more easily secure liens, should she decide to do so, on two of the real estate mogul’s most valuable properties: Trump National Golf Club Westchester and the mostly undeveloped 212-acre Seven Springs estate.


Miss James is set to start seizing trump’s westchester golf club this coming Monday. Next his bank account will be frozen. Sneaker sales are not doing well…


Trump Can Post Smaller Bond in Civil Fraud Case, Court Rules (NYT)

With Donald J. Trump on the clock to secure a nearly half-billion-dollar bond in his civil fraud case, a New York appeals court appears to have handed the former president a lifeline on Monday, saying it would accept a far smaller bond of $175 million.

So, I actually think this is a defensible, maybe even good, decision -- provided any other defendant gets similar treatment. Trump, like any other defendant, has a right to appeal, and it is troubling to see the prospect of someone exercising their right of appeal still facing essentially the full burden of the judgement they are appealing. I think the trial was a fair one, and I will be surprised if Trump wins on appeal, but taking the right of appeal seriously means one must accept the possibility that the defendant win on appeal, and having a judgement overturned after having paid a heavy penalty does not seem fair.

Again, though, I hope this is true for all appellants, not simply the powerful and well connected.


Always the victim…. It’s their MO. All of them!


Here's a framing question for whenever terp (or another trump defender) returns -- what would a legitimate criminal prosecution of someone running for president look like?

Presumably, if one believes that Trump is a victim of political persecution, legitimate prosecution would look different. So, what are some features absent from Trump's situation that we would expect if it were legitimate, or present in Trump's situation we would not expect?


PVW said:

Here's a framing question for whenever terp (or another trump defender) returns -- what would a legitimate criminal prosecution of someone running for president look like?

Presumably, if one believes that Trump is a victim of political persecution, legitimate prosecution would look different. So, what are some features absent from Trump's situation that we would expect if it were legitimate, or present in Trump's situation we would not expect?

Essentially, he wouldn't be prosecuted for crimes that nobody has ever been tried for before or that any reasonable person would not reject out of hand as harassment.  Such as this fraud trial which has 0 victims.  Anyone who doesn't see the politics in this trial needs to have their head removed from their posterior and then have it examined. 


But, uh, he is being tried for crimes other have been tried for?


PVW said:

But, uh, he is being tried for crimes other have been tried for?

Which case would you like to discuss?  And don't try telling me I'm stealing someone's agency you pathetic POS. 


As the flag’s emblematic field suggests, the slips come in bunches.

Reported.


DaveSchmidt said:

As the flag’s emblematic field suggests, the slips come in bunches.

Reported.

Brave.


terp said:

Brave.

I accept the irony from the anonymous flamethrower. It’s what the button is for, if Jamie decides to act on it.


terp said:

DaveSchmidt said:

As the flag’s emblematic field suggests, the slips come in bunches.

Reported.

Brave.

this is too funny



Judge Merchan has revised the gag order prohibiting trump from making public statements about Mr Bragg or his family. Let’s see.


How it's going - 


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