The mass shooting today.
RealityForAll said:
The shooter's name is a classically non-Anglo name (which could alternatively be described as non-White).
Inigo Montoya and 47 million Spaniards would like to have a word with you.
GoSlugs said:
RealityForAll said:
The shooter's name is a classically non-Anglo name (which could alternatively be described as non-White).
Inigo Montoya and 47 million Spaniards would like to have a word with you.
Ok, let me try again:
The shooter's name is a classically non-Anglo name (which could alternatively be described as non-Anglo White, or Hispanic White).
RealityForAll said:
Ok, let me try again:
The shooter's name is a classically non-Anglo name (which could alternatively be described as non-Anglo White, or Hispanic White).
you seem to derive extreme pleasure from being a contrarian.
RealityForAll said:
Ok, let me try again:
The shooter's name is a classically non-Anglo name (which could alternatively be described as non-Anglo White, or Hispanic White).
How, leaving aside the idiosyncrasies that determine one European state from another, specifically, does a white person from Spain differ from a white person from Southern France?
You seem to be veering dangerously into "octoroon" territory. Those are troubled waters.
US Ship: Please divert your course 0.5 degrees to the south to avoid a collision.
CND reply: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.
US Ship: This is the Captain of a US Navy Ship. I say again, divert your course.
CND reply: No. I say again, you divert YOUR course!
US Ship: THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS CORAL SEA*, WE ARE A LARGE WARSHIP OF THE US NAVY. DIVERT YOUR COURSE NOW!!
CND reply: This is a lighthouse. Your call.
GoSlugs said:
RealityForAll said:
Ok, let me try again:
The shooter's name is a classically non-Anglo name (which could alternatively be described as non-Anglo White, or Hispanic White).
How, leaving aside the idiosyncrasies that determine one European state from another, specifically, does a white person from Spain differ from a white person from Southern France?
You seem to be veering dangerously into "octoroon" territory. Those are troubled waters.
US Ship: Please divert your course 0.5 degrees to the south to avoid a collision.
CND reply: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision.
US Ship: This is the Captain of a US Navy Ship. I say again, divert your course.
CND reply: No. I say again, you divert YOUR course!
US Ship: THIS IS THE AIRCRAFT CARRIER USS CORAL SEA*, WE ARE A LARGE WARSHIP OF THE US NAVY. DIVERT YOUR COURSE NOW!!
CND reply: This is a lighthouse. Your call.
My understanding is: i.) the FBI crime statistics are based on statistics tabulated by each of the states and DC; ii.) some states do NOT tabulate crime statistics with regard to ethnicity (namely, Hispanic or non-Hispanic); iii.) FBI crime statistics are divided into different races; iv.) FBI Table 43 includes five races as follows White, Black or African American; American Indian or Alaska Native; Asian or Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islande.
The FBI categories drive the definitions. Further, I understand that these definitions have changed over time.
Do you suppose white supremacists consult the FBI crime stats before deciding on their ideology?
RealityForAll said:
My understanding is: i.) the FBI crime statistics are based on statistics tabulated by each of the states and DC; ii.) some states do NOT tabulate crime statistics with regard to ethnicity (namely, Hispanic or non-Hispanic); iii.) FBI crime statistics are divided into different races; iv.) FBI Table 43 includes five races as follows White, Black or African American; American Indian or Alaska Native; Asian or Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islande.
The FBI categories drive the definitions. Further, I understand that these definitions have changed over time.
Honestly, I was just commenting on your cringe worthy attempt to define "whiteness".
GoSlugs said:
RealityForAll said:
My understanding is: i.) the FBI crime statistics are based on statistics tabulated by each of the states and DC; ii.) some states do NOT tabulate crime statistics with regard to ethnicity (namely, Hispanic or non-Hispanic); iii.) FBI crime statistics are divided into different races; iv.) FBI Table 43 includes five races as follows White, Black or African American; American Indian or Alaska Native; Asian or Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islande.
The FBI categories drive the definitions. Further, I understand that these definitions have changed over time.
Honestly, I was just commenting on your cringe worthy attempt to define "whiteness".
I did nothing of the sort. I was just attempting to use the FBI categorization scheme.
RealityForAll said:
I did nothing of the sort. I was just attempting to use the FBI categorization scheme.
Sure you did buddy.
GoSlugs said:
RealityForAll said:
I did nothing of the sort. I was just attempting to use the FBI categorization scheme.
Sure you did buddy.
You have made false accusations and smears. Just come clean.
RealityForAll said:
You have made false accusations and smears. Just come clean.
LOL! I quoted your post. It's right there for everyone to see and it speaks for itself.
The only poster who has smeared you is you.
RealityForAll said:
My understanding is: i.) the FBI crime statistics are based on statistics tabulated by each of the states and DC;
At some point, the rhetorical habit of referring to “my understanding” stops working as a cover for being misinformed.
FBI crime statistics are reported by individual law enforcement agencies, not tabulated by the states. The agencies may report their stats through a state Uniform Crime Report program, but the tabulation policy choices are theirs, not the states’.
We can talk about a history of different politics, of authoritarian styles of gouvernement, even a difference in lobby groups. But there’s no getting around the high stats for private gun ownership in Serbia.
Yet after ‘only’ two mass shootings in less than a week, they have firm action to protect their citizens:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65597622 In the wake of the shootings, President Aleksandar Vucic swiftly announced what he called a "general disarmament" of the country. He declared a month-long amnesty for illegally-held weapons, with a warning of harsh consequences for anyone who held on to guns without a permit.
More on the nuances of "Hispanic" and "Latino":
Are you Hispanic or Latino? A census mistake reveals a complicated answer. (WaPo, gifted link)
I was going to say something about Baltimore but then I saw that there had already been another in Philadelphia.
And yet another one yesterday (Monday) in Fort Worth. Three dead, eight wounded.
One mass shooting is a tragedy, 350 (and counting) are a statistic.
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