Sorry left - the person arrested for the JCC threats does not have the profile you had hoped.


ml1 said:

which institutions contain prevalent anti-Semitism in your view?

As of now, the White House.


Comrade Gilgul, it is reported that the person arrested has had psychological issues so he would definitely qualify to join you as a member of the new Russo-G.O.P. party.


And, how do we explain the antisemitism in Europe. Record numbers of French Jews are relocating permanently to Israel. See http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/17/opinions/europe-anti-semitism-thriving-oren/ Apparently, France intends to create new legislation that will identify/label all goods from Judea, Samaria (the West Bank) and the Golan Heights. It appears that such labeling is intended to diminish demand for such goods.


Q1: Is Trump responsible for the European antisemitism?


Q2: Is Trump responsible for the highest level of relocation by French Jews to Israel in 2015?


Once again, not a DJT supporter, but similar antisemitism on different continents yet DJT is the cause here in the US (appears other causes for antisemitism, other than DJT, may be at work in both Europe and US).



The Russkys did it. Wow.


Formerlyjerseyjack said:

Comrade Gilgul, it is reported that the person arrested has had psychological issues so he would definitely qualify to join you as a member of the new Russo-G.O.P. party.



It would seem that increases in anti-Semitism accompany xenophobia and Islamophobia. Trump isn't the cause, but he campaigned on xenophobia and Islamophobia and has certainly energized these feelings. Again, even if this is only 10% of Trump supporters, it is a huge number. There was something about his campaign that inspired these groups to crawl out from under their rocks. And, we have seen that people with various issues will latch onto this crap and commit hate crimes.

RealityForAll said:

And, how do we explain the antisemitism in Europe. Record numbers of French Jews are relocating permanently to Israel. See http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/17/opinions/europe-anti-semitism-thriving-oren/ Apparently, France intends to create new legislation that will identify/label all goods from Judea, Samaria (the West Bank) and the Golan Heights. It appears that such labeling is intended to diminish demand for such goods.




Q1: Is Trump responsible for the European antisemitism?




Q2: Is Trump responsible for the highest level of relocation by French Jews to Israel in 2015?




Once again, not a DJT supporter, but similar antisemitism on different continents yet DJT is the cause here in the US (appears other causes for antisemitism, other than DJT, may be at work in both Europe and US).



no one is claiming Trump is the cause of anti-semitism, or racism. or anything for that matter.

He is a facilitator of these things. And being President, that's kind of a big deal.



RealityForAll said:

The Russkys did it. Wow.



Formerlyjerseyjack said:

Comrade Gilgul, it is reported that the person arrested has had psychological issues so he would definitely qualify to join you as a member of the new Russo-G.O.P. party.

With the new revelations about Trump, Flynn, Sessions, et al., conspiring with Putin and his agents, it becomes clear that we better learn how to speak Russian and begin calling each other "Comrade...." While we don't own Siberia and can't send dissidents there, we do own Mississippi and anyone considered a threat to our new soviet bosses can be classified as an "enemy of the people" and be so vanished.

But don't worry. Our Dear Leader, Comrade Donald is making us safe.


In business when two CEO's reach a general agreement, they say, at least on T.V., I'll have my lawyers call your lawyers. My sense of meetings between the Trump organization and the Russians is that they are saying "I'll have my oligarchs talk to your oligarchs".



RealityForAll said:



Q1: Is Trump responsible for the European antisemitism?

No, but I'm sure the extreme Right was happy with his election.


In what world do you live where that link contradicts what I said?

I mean, I assume that's the point of your post...

lord_pabulum said:

Really db?



Yesterday Scott Simon on NPR was interviewing Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic. Goldberg has been studying antisemitism for years. For a thoughtful, non-reactive perspective, I would recommend looking at the transcript. I don't know how to do a link here, but it is easy to find if you google Scott Simon, NPR and scroll down to this interview.


DJT did not cause a resurgence of anti-semitism. But he made it safer for the anti-semites among us to come out of hiding.


well, that's kind of like a resurgence.

shoshannah said:

DJT did not cause a resurgence of anti-semitism. But he made it safer for the anti-semites among us to come out of hiding.



And now there has been another arrest for a large number of the JCC bomb threat calls. And one again the left will be disappointed. To the lefts dismay it is another person (Israeli) with mental illness. No right wing connections:

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Dual-US-Israeli-citizen-behind-most-JCC-bomb-threat-calls-484990




Gilgul said:

And now there has been another arrest for a large number of the JCC bomb threat calls. And one again the left will be disappointed. To the lefts dismay it is another person (Israeli) with mental illness. No right wing connections:

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Dual-US-Israeli-citizen-behind-most-JCC-bomb-threat-calls-484990" target="_blank"> http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Dual-US-Israeli-citizen-behind-most-JCC-bomb-threat-calls-484990

The Stormfronters are f**king ecstatic about this. "See? Told you it was a Jew."


You need counseling. A rational person would start by suspecting that threats against Jews would come from right wingnuts. That the threats are coming mostly from people with various personal issues or mental illness is not surprising, but I don't know of any normal people who are disappointed.

Gilgul said:

And now there has been another arrest for a large number of the JCC bomb threat calls. And one again the left will be disappointed. To the lefts dismay it is another person (Israeli) with mental illness. No right wing connections:

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Dual-US-Israeli-citizen-behind-most-JCC-bomb-threat-calls-484990" target="_blank"> http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Dual-US-Israeli-citizen-behind-most-JCC-bomb-threat-calls-484990




tjohn said:

A rational person would start by suspecting that threats against Jews would come from right wingnuts.

That is exactly the issue with the mindset of so many people. Why would anyone rationally start from suspecting that? There is at least as much antisemitism on the left, and these sorts of things being done as a result of mental illness is extremely common. But you say that the assumption from the start should be in one direction.



Gilgul said:



tjohn said:

A rational person would start by suspecting that threats against Jews would come from right wingnuts.

That is exactly the issue with the mindset of so many people. Why would anyone rationally start from suspecting that? There is at least as much antisemitism on the left, and these sorts of things being done as a result of mental illness is extremely common. But you say that the assumption from the start should be in one direction.

Beats me. I've never really studied law enforcement. But I always had this weird idea that when investigating crimes, you might consider motive. Of course, if you have tangible leads to pursue in the form of calls, texts or Internet activity, then you don't have to consider any motive.

I guess it's new law enforcement theory - don't bother with motive and assume any of the 7 billion people on Earth could be the perp.



Gilgul said:


...There is at least as much antisemitism on the left....

Evidence, please. Otherwise shut up.



tom said:



Gilgul said:


...There is at least as much antisemitism on the left....

Evidence, please. Otherwise shut up.

Tom, if you understand anti-Semitism as being a failure to prostrate yourself at the feet of Bibi, it makes more sense.



Gilgul said:



tjohn said:

A rational person would start by suspecting that threats against Jews would come from right wingnuts.

That is exactly the issue with the mindset of so many people. Why would anyone rationally start from suspecting that? There is at least as much antisemitism on the left, and these sorts of things being done as a result of mental illness is extremely common. But you say that the assumption from the start should be in one direction.

You're right. When I read this, I'm always reminded of the antisemitism of the left.

There have now been two arrests in the threats against Jewish schools and community centers which President Donald Trump, an Israel-firster whose family is half Jewish, described as “vile” and “horrible” in his major speech before Congress recently.

First, Juan Thompson, an African-American journalist who publicly posted anti-White diatribes on social media, was arrested by the FBI and charged with threatening several Jewish schools. Now, a second arrest has been made, this one with very serious international implications. As with many instances of allegedly ‘anti-Semitic’ ‘hate crimes’, the person responsible for threatening Jewish community centers in the United States, Australia, and New Zealand is, wait for it…Jewish. He has been arrested in Israel for calling in over 60 threats to Jewish organizations in the U.S., alone.

Jews create sympathy, camouflage, and profit for themselves through fictional Holocaust literature and films, government-ran public school indoctrination and propaganda, and when that doesn’t work, by spray-painting swastikas on their own property and calling in threats to their own people. Oy Vey. That’s in their nature.

It is NOT in the nature of White people to play the eternal victim, and run in panicked hordes down the street away from one silly camel-raper with a kitchen knife. It is our nature, deep inside, to be conquerors, to be winners, not losers and victims.

Let Jews cry wolf. Let Whites BE wolves.


forget the former.

tom said:



Gilgul said:


...There is at least as much antisemitism on the left....

Evidence, please. Otherwise shut up.




Gilgul said:

He actually seems to be one of yours. A former writer for a left wing website. I assume the subject will not no longer be mentioned. Given that you all want to hide all the Antisemitism on the left.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/man-arrested-for-jcc-bomb-threats-appears-to-be-former-journalist-fired-for-fabrication/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> http://www.mediaite.com/online/man-arrested-for-jcc-bomb-threats-appears-to-be-former-journalist-fired-for-fabrication/

Really a deplorable post. I had no hopes other than the person be stopped.


I think you are way off base to make this a left-right fight. You want to trash the left, do it outside of discussions of anti-semitism. Anti-semitism is a force that needs to be dealt with, and saying one side of the American political system is worse at this issue than the other is not going to serve anyone. When there is a threat or damage or injury or death, everyone should be outraged. When someone is apprehended or indicted, we should be slightly relieved but not entirely. When justice is served, it's another small relief, but better that this sh*t doesn't happen at all. Is this so hard to agree upon? No one is disappointed that the other perceived enemy, whoever that is, turns out not to be the culprit, at least no one with any integrity. The problem with that outlook is that someone will take joy in finding out that the suspected culprit is a long-time adversary. If you take that kind of joy, now or in other situations, you're f*cked up. It's also f*cked up to think that others would do that.


It's because the cognitive dissonance is too hard for Zoinks.

It's one of his own.


"one of his own"?! Wtf


Yes, just as Trump, probably letting slip information he had been given in a briefing suggested it would be.


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