Tonight’s debate - November 20

Every time Joe Biden opens his mouth I cringe, waiting for his stumbles.  It took a few seconds tonight.  


Isn't this the first debate with an all female panel?

20 minutes into the debate and a few candidates have not even been questioned.


Uh Oh. Kamala is going full tilt boogie against Tulsi Gabbard. 

And now its Tulsi's turn.

I like the way both of them are handling this.


Pete gets a demerit for saying "Heartland".

eff the "Heartland".


Amy Klobuchar is making a good point and is well qualified but she doesn't have the strong delivery that either Harris or Gabbard have. Agree with them or not, they both exude confidence and that may be something that's needed to persuade voters.


Doesn’t it look like AK is shaking while she’s speaking?


jeffl said:

Doesn’t it look like AK is shaking while she’s speaking?

 Yes, I've noticed it for the past year. She may have what's referred to as intentional tremors. I think that's the correct term.


Morganna said:

Isn't this the first debate with an all female panel?

20 minutes into the debate and a few candidates have not even been questioned.

 All-female establishment hack panel.  Where is Amy Goodman or someone Progressive?  Not diverse.


nan said:

 All-female establishment hack panel.  Where is Amy Goodman or someone Progressive?  Not diverse.

 Rachel Maddow is in no way a hack. I'm not aware of any female who has tackled topics on women's issues as fervently as she has. Its not popular and the general public is too squeamish to confront issues she has exposed. I've been watching her nightly for years. The expose of the treatment of women in clinics in Missouri actually resulted in the end of the outrageous humiliation they endured.


Tulsi gave it away - she said "Democrat issue" (instead of Democratic), just like a Republican.


Harris is having a good night. I had been disenchanted with her but she is getting the kind of questions  that work with her style, controlled anger.


Morganna said:

 Rachel Maddow is in no way a hack. I'm not aware of any female who has tackled topics on women's issues as fervently as she has. Its not popular and the general public is too squeamish to confront issues she has exposed. I've been watching her nightly for years. The expose of the treatment of women in clinics in Missouri actually resulted in the end of the outrageous humiliation they endured.

 Maddow pushed a conspiracy hoax for 2+ years.  I have zero respect.  I don't care about identity politics.  Those women up there are all the same politically.  There is no progressive.  They are asking stupid questions.  They are letting Tom Steyer talk more than Bernie.  


Bernie is having a good night.


nan said:

 Maddow pushed a conspiracy hoax for 2+ years.  I have zero respect.  I don't care about identity politics.  Those women up there are all the same politically.  There is no progressive.  They are asking stupid questions.  They are letting Tom Steyer talk more than Bernie.  

 Identity politics? That's how you characterize it? 

Those women are all the same politically?  

This polarizing approach, painting everything with a broad brush, name calling. Seems like we have enough of that in this political climate. 

I don't see this as an honest dialogue.


Morganna said:

 Identity politics? That's how you characterize it? 

Those women are all the same politically?  

This polarizing approach, painting everything with a broad brush, name calling. Seems like we have enough of that in this political climate. 

I don't see this as an honest dialogue.

 I'm pissed.  There is NO PROGRESSIVE.  These are corporate-type questions.  Why can't we have someone like Amy Goodman?   At least.  


WTH is a "corporate-type question". Is "What would you do about white supremacist violence?" an example.

(When Tulsi answered that, she really should have said "I will stop appearing on Tucker Carlson's show.")


drummerboy said:

WTH is a "corporate-type question". Is "What would you do about white supremacist violence?" an example.

(When Tulsi answered that, she really should have said "I will stop appearing on Tucker Carlson's show.")

 No, there are voters on Tucker Carlson and she would be their president too.  Warren should have gone on FOX.  


nan said:

drummerboy said:

WTH is a "corporate-type question". Is "What would you do about white supremacist violence?" an example.

(When Tulsi answered that, she really should have said "I will stop appearing on Tucker Carlson's show.")

 No, there are voters on Tucker Carlson and she would be their president too.  Warren should have gone on FOX.  

 You're sooooo wrong on this.

Anyway, you avoided my question.

Again.


Buttigieg made me want to puke with his answer on race.  They should have asked him about the 400 fake black endorsements he did in South Carolina.  If they had a Progressive moderator they would have asked him that.   But they love Pete so he gets off easy.


Morganna said:

 Rachel Maddow is in no way a hack.  

When Nan says Maddow is a hack, she means that she has not publicly endorsed Bernie.  Anyone who hasn't endorsed Bernie is, in Nan's book, a hack.  

Its her favourite smear.


drummerboy said:

 You're sooooo wrong on this.

Anyway, you avoided my question.

Again.

I'm typing and watching.  I am skimming the posts.  They ask dumb questions like "What would you say to Putin on your first meeting?"  They asked Bernie about people chanting at his rally.   They should have at least one moderator asking about Imperialism. It's so superficial.  Just sound bites.  

Now I'm listening to the in-between commentary--so lame. 


And Rachel tackles it head on. About bloody time.


A very boring night. 

Amy is winning.  Booker, Mayor Pete, Biden, Harris and Warren doing well.

Yang, Steyer, Sanders, Tulsi fighting for last place.


Tulsi meets with the leaders of countries around the world.

Uncle Vladi and Assad both smiled when she said that.


Mayor Pete is DECIMATING Tulsi the Warmonger.


Tulsi.has.got.to.go! Full stop

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Tulsi needs to get the **** off of the stage and get the **** out of this party.  She is useless.


 


Steyer wins the Dunderhead Award for the night. "Term limits" is so boomer.


sbenois said:

Mayor Pete is DECIMATING Tulsi the Warmonger.

 Pete sucked. He is an empty suit.  He wants to send troops to Mexico.  He would continue the failed foreign policy.  He would not cut the military budget.  He would be a corporate puppet.   


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