Redistricting put Tom Kean, Jr in office, and now....

...he votes for Jim Jordan.  Hopefully, this will be the nail in his political coffin.

jeffl said:

...he votes for Jim Jordan.  Hopefully, this will be the nail in his political coffin.

From your keyboard, to God's eyeballs.

Formerlyjerseyjack said:

From your keyboard, to God's eyeballs.

The Almighty doesn’t vote. 

Also this should be in the Political soapbox. 

Right   Forgot about that section   Never use it   I'll see if I can move it  

mrincredible said:

Also this should be in the Political soapbox. 

I doubt it will make any difference. Does anyone who votes Republican these days care about anything aside from owning the libs?

ml1 said:

I doubt it will make any difference. Does anyone who votes Republican these days care about anything aside from owning the libs?

It’s not that simple. There’s a small but significant number of swing voters who often vote on emotion or gut feeling. It’s not policy-driven voting. Things like gas prices and inflation get blamed on the incumbent. 

These voters are also subject to fear-mongering such as we saw from Trump in 2016. 

And didn't he position himself as part of the "not-crazy" GOP wing?

Steve said:

And didn't he position himself as part of the "not-crazy" GOP wing?

If anyone actually remembers this in a year, I think he can position himself as voting for the most likely candidate, so the house of representatives could get back to its work of governance. Is this really an issue which is going to drive greater democratic turnout in the next election? That’s pretty much the only way he’s going to lose his seat in 2024.

I dunno.  If Jordan somehow gets elected, you can be damned sure that they are going to hang that around Kean's neck like an anchor.  Supporting a guy who was a leader of the insurrectionists and ignored sexual abuse is not a good look in North Jersey.

And it seems to be enough of a potential anchor that four GOP Reps from NY are in the "no" camp (even after Jordan offered to support a doubling of the SALT deduction limit).

mrincredible said:

ml1 said:

I doubt it will make any difference. Does anyone who votes Republican these days care about anything aside from owning the libs?

It’s not that simple. There’s a small but significant number of swing voters who often vote on emotion or gut feeling. It’s not policy-driven voting. Things like gas prices and inflation get blamed on the incumbent. 

These voters are also subject to fear-mongering such as we saw from Trump in 2016. 

well, those people aren't voting rationally, so does anything about Kean's vote for speaker matter with them?

ml1 said:

mrincredible said:

ml1 said:

I doubt it will make any difference. Does anyone who votes Republican these days care about anything aside from owning the libs?

It’s not that simple. There’s a small but significant number of swing voters who often vote on emotion or gut feeling. It’s not policy-driven voting. Things like gas prices and inflation get blamed on the incumbent. 

These voters are also subject to fear-mongering such as we saw from Trump in 2016. 

well, those people aren't voting rationally, so does anything about Kean's vote for speaker matter with them?

I have to question the "small but significant number" contention. I think the majority of voters do not vote based on issues. Might even be vast majority.

Kean, Jr. just voted for McCarthy.  A little scared, Junior?

jeffl said:

Kean, Jr. just voted for McCarthy.  A little scared, Junior?

My amateur assessment is that a vote for McCarthy (who nominated Jordan) is a “I’m willing to make a deal with Jim” vote. The ones who are really tired of Jordan are voting for McHenry, who is the option that’s been floated.