Stormy Sues Trump

bub said:

He has a vulgar 10 year old boy's idea of what the good life is.  Casinos, gold plated things, bimbos, giant ostentatious yachts like you see in movies.  I'm capable of envy but I always have and always will just laugh at the guy.  

I once heard someone say that he's the poor man's idea of what a rich man is like. Kinda rings true.

ridski said:

BG9 said:

ridski said:

bub said:

He has a vulgar 10 year old boy's idea of what the good life is.  Casinos, gold plated things, bimbos, giant ostentatious yachts like you see in movies.  I'm capable of envy but I always have and always will just laugh at the guy.  

We all know the first thing Trump did when he entered the Presidential bedroom is install The Clapper.

Trump had a bedroom created for him in the WH residence. Just for him. He also directed that a lock be put on his bedroom door that only he has the key for. 

The secret service objected. The demanded they also be given key access.

http://polipace.com/2018/01/03/inside-trumps-secret-bedroom-white-house/

http://polipace.com/are-we-fake-news/

I guess it must be true, because that site has a page that says they’re not fake news.

I guess it is since that's not the only site reporting this.

On Wednesday, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders reiterated Trump’s denial of an affair.

“The president has addressed these [allegations] directly and made very well clear that none of these allegations are true,” she said.

Whereas, Trump's lawyer has gone to arbitration to prevent Stormy from talking about the affair, releasing video pictures and emails.

If nothing happened, what is there to prevent? Why go to the trouble of getting legal recourse over nothing?

His followers still believe in him and his innocence? They really are very, very stupid.

South_Mountaineer said:

I'm not sure if we're agreeing or disagreeing.  I looked at the webpage you indicated, and from their chart he's doing worse lately (see picture attached).

BCC said:

She sued him on March 5th. Check those numbers and those for March 7th now that the tax bill is no longer involved


 


https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

South_Mountaineer said:

Reading the article you posted, the jump is in January, after the tax bill but before major Stormy news was out there.

BCC said:

South_Mountaineer said:

I think this is like when there is bad news about the economy, and it doesn't really affect stocks.  The commentators say that the market had already taken the expected bad news into account.  So Trump voters had already taken the fact that he was a cheating creep into account when they voted for him.

BCC said:

bub said:

I think every one of these episodes peels supporters away.  Maybe not the core supporters, maybe not massive defections, but some.  The incorrigible robotic supporters are the ones who go on the internet screaming "fake news."   The queasy, on the fence from the beginning supporters don't do as much screaming.   But they vote.

This  poll,. Indicates more are sticking with him than deserting

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/31/politics/monmouth-poll-trump-approval/index.html

What you say is true but it doesn't account for a 10 point jump in his approval rating.https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

If you look at the numbers you will see a different picture.

OTOH he could easily say something tomorrow that will knock his numbers down. He has an uncanny ability to snatch defeat from victory with his mouth.

I'm sort of with BCC on this one.  Trump seems to have a very stable base support level that is impervious, so far, to anything he does.  I have a couple of cousins who seem to justify supporting Trump by believing that the negative news about him is truly fake news.  As the saying goes, there are few tasks more difficult that convincing the victim of a con that they have been conned.

tjohn said:

I'm sort of with BCC on this one.  Trump seems to have a very stable base support level that is impervious, so far, to anything he does.  I have a couple of cousins who seem to justify supporting Trump by believing that the negative news about him is truly fake news.  As the saying goes, there are few tasks more difficult that convincing the victim of a con that they have been conned.

It's called stiggin' it. Meaning sticking it to the man, sticking it to the liberals. They. Don't. Care. As long as the "elites" are infuriated, they're happy. A DJT supporter's version of schadenfreude.

It was suggested earlier on this thread, that she could tell all take the fine and make more selling her story. But I heard on MSNBC, can't remember which show, that the way the agreement is written, she would be fined the money each time she disclosed information.

Morganna said:

It was suggested earlier on this thread, that she could tell all take the fine and make more selling her story. But I heard on MSNBC, can't remember which show, that the way the agreement is written, she would be fined the money each time she disclosed information.

That's why Stormy wants the court to rule that since Trump didn't sign it, the agreement is null and void or in the alternative, not enforceable. 

Whenever Michael Cohen is mentioned I'm reminded of this: 

tjohn said:

I'm sort of with BCC on this one.  Trump seems to have a very stable base support level that is impervious, so far, to anything he does.  I have a couple of cousins who seem to justify supporting Trump by believing that the negative news about him is truly fake news.  As the saying goes, there are few tasks more difficult that convincing the victim of a con that they have been conned.

I once heard someone say that his supporters neither believe him nor expect him to make their lives better.  They support him because white people don’t want to go down without making  others suffer.  

Red_Barchetta said:

tjohn said:

I'm sort of with BCC on this one.  Trump seems to have a very stable base support level that is impervious, so far, to anything he does.  I have a couple of cousins who seem to justify supporting Trump by believing that the negative news about him is truly fake news.  As the saying goes, there are few tasks more difficult that convincing the victim of a con that they have been conned.

I once heard someone say that his supporters neither believe him nor expect him to make their lives better.  They support him because white people don’t want to go down without making  others suffer.  

Which of course is racist nonsense, or do you believe it?

I think this is a fair resume of the current conditions except possibly the last sentence

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/09/opinion/sunday/smug-liberals-conservative-trolls.html

What is currently taking place with Trump and the Left is a perfect example of her comments as they regard NOKO's offer. Trump has potentially scored a tremendous foreign policy coup and the Left is trying trash it.

All that remains to complete the scenario is for Trump to, in the near future, step on his tongue or have another implication of some wrong doing in the past and have the MSM take off like a big *** bird..

ETA to correct spelling.

BCC said:

I think this is a fair resume of the current conditions except possibly the last sentence

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/09/opinion/sunday/smug-liberals-conservative-trolls.html

What is currently taking place with Trump and the Left is a perfect example of her comments as they regard NOKO's offer. Trump has potentially scored a tremendous foreign policy coup and the Left is trying trash it.

All that remains to complete the scenario is for Trump to, in the near future, step on his tongue or have another implication of some wrong doing in the past and have the MSM take off like a big *** bid..

The edges of the news media are certainly profiting from and promoting political divisions.

Having said that, anybody with a brain should be concerned the Kim Jong-un is going to run circles around Trump at America's expense.  Kim Jong-un has already won just be having a meeting with a U.S. president.  Do you really think Trump will get him to agree to denuclearize the Korean Peninsula?

God, I miss Breaking Bad. What a perfect show.

cramer said:

Whenever Michael Cohen is mentioned I'm reminded of this: 

Unlikely NK gives up nukes and if Trump strikes a deal that legitimizes NK's nuclear arsenal, expect nuclear proliferation in Asia.  Japan, South Korea, and maybe more distant countries are not going to sit back and do nothing. 

tjohn said:

BCC said:

I think this is a fair resume of the current conditions except possibly the last sentence

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/09/opinion/sunday/smug-liberals-conservative-trolls.html

What is currently taking place with Trump and the Left is a perfect example of her comments as they regard NOKO's offer. Trump has potentially scored a tremendous foreign policy coup and the Left is trying trash it.

All that remains to complete the scenario is for Trump to, in the near future, step on his tongue or have another implication of some wrong doing in the past and have the MSM take off like a big *** bid..

The edges of the news media are certainly profiting from and promoting political divisions.

Having said that, anybody with a brain should be concerned the Kim Jong-un is going to run circles around Trump at America's expense.  Kim Jong-un has already won just be having a meeting with a U.S. president.  Do you really think Trump will get him to agree to denuclearize the Korean Peninsula?

Kim is the head of a foreign government meeting the head of government. How is that some big win?

Are you suggesting Trump not show up and if so how will that advance the peace process?

Also you haven't taken into account that we have promised nothing, while NOKO has offered a variety of accommodations to our demands. That can reasonably be assumed, even by someone with half a brain, that Kim has lost badly. I would say right now we are in the driver's seat and it remains to be seen how this ultimately plays out.

BCC said:

Kim is the head of a foreign government meeting the head of government. How is that some big win?

North Korea’s Kims have been eager to meet with an American president since at least the Clinton years. This is the first time a president has said yes.

Let's hope for the best but given NK's past history of wild swings from charm offensive to belligerence mode, don't assume these talks are even going to take place or, if they do, that NK won't backtrack on any concessions it seems to have made.   It's way to early to spin this as anything just yet.

DaveSchmidt said:

BCC said:

Kim is the head of a foreign government meeting the head of government. How is that some big win?

North Korea’s Kims have been eager to meet with an American president since at least the Clinton years. This is the first time a president has said yes.

bub said:

It's way to early to spin this as anything just yet.

Didn’t intend to spin. Just noting that the current “yes,” in and of itself, is something North Korea had been seeking for a couple of decades or more.

I'm in agreement with you in this point.  That alone is a victory for NK because the U.S. has historically resisted bilateral talks with NK.  I meant too early to guess about the outcome, if any, of these talks or describe this as a "breakthrough" etc. 

DaveSchmidt said:

bub said:

It's way to early to spin this as anything just yet.

Didn’t intend to spin. Just noting that the current “yes,” in and of itself, is something North Korea had been seeking for a couple of decades or more.

BCC said:


Kim is the head of a foreign government meeting the head of government. How is that some big win?

Are you suggesting Trump not show up and if so how will that advance the peace process?

Also you haven't taken into account that we have promised nothing, while NOKO has offered a variety of accommodations to our demands. That can reasonably be assumed, even by someone with half a brain, that Kim has lost badly. I would say right now we are in the driver's seat and it remains to be seen how this ultimately plays out.

Kim wins by meeting a U.S. President face to face.

Trump wins if Kim agrees to a denuclearization plan.

It's quite simple.

BCC said:

What is currently taking place with Trump and the Left is a perfect example of her comments as they regard NOKO's offer. Trump has potentially scored a tremendous foreign policy coup and the Left is trying trash it.

The right was never a fan of having the president conduct direct negotiation with NK. And, yes, the left is skeptical of Trump being able to pull something off. 

Best case short-term scenario: This keeps John Bolton out of a WH job.

DaveSchmidt said:

BCC said:

Kim is the head of a foreign government meeting the head of government. How is that some big win?

North Korea’s Kims have been eager to meet with an American president since at least the Clinton years. This is the first time a president has said yes.

Those Presidents said no because the Kims would not meet preconditions and where did it get us? They simply kicked the can down the road until no road was left. In the meanwhile NOKO was becoming a nuclear threat.

Trump is giving nothing and is getting promises that could settle this peacefully. I hope he can swing it, but would I guarantee it - not likely.

Bottom line, how does Kim apparently caving on major issues as Trump offers nothing translate into a win by Kim

If Trump meets with Kim I predict that the  meeting probably will be "Terrific" or "Fantastic" or "Great". My prediction is based on the fact that everything Trump does is "Terrific" or "Fantastic" or "Great". 

Of course it's possible that "we'll see".

BCC said:

Bottom line, how does Kim apparently caving on major issues as Trump offers nothing translate into a win by Kim

Which major issues did Kim apparently concede in order to get Trump to say yes to a meeting?

Will Trump bring Rodman along?

DaveSchmidt said:

BCC said:

Bottom line, how does Kim apparently caving on major issues as Trump offers nothing translate into a win by Kim

Which major issues did Kim apparently concede in order to get Trump to say yes to a meeting?

He said that denuclearization was "on the table".  At best, this would be in exchange for ending the permanent U.S. military presence in South Korea.

Look for Kim's little sister (Lil' Kim) to be making a trip to Washington before the F2F with Trump and Kim. 

This is what South Korea says NK said.  With NK, you have to be skeptical even when they say things directly and without qualification.

We'll see.  Hopeful but not optimistic.

tjohn said:

DaveSchmidt said:

BCC said:

Bottom line, how does Kim apparently caving on major issues as Trump offers nothing translate into a win by Kim

Which major issues did Kim apparently concede in order to get Trump to say yes to a meeting?

He said that denuclearization was "on the table".  At best, this would be in exchange for ending the permanent U.S. military presence in South Korea.

tjohn said:

DaveSchmidt said:

BCC said:

Bottom line, how does Kim apparently caving on major issues as Trump offers nothing translate into a win by Kim

Which major issues did Kim apparently concede in order to get Trump to say yes to a meeting?

He said that denuclearization was "on the table".  At best, this would be in exchange for ending the permanent U.S. military presence in South Korea.

In addition he offered no more rocket tests, no more bomb tests so long as meeting went on. You have absolutely no idea what it would be in exchange for, if anything at all, since Trump offered nothing, nada, zilch.

You can also speculate that Kim caved due to the pressure now being applied rather than really, really, really, wanting to meet the President.

Again I ask, how do you find Kim is a winner when he caved on important issues and Trump offered nothing?

Also I would not be surprised if Trump called this 'Tremendous' or used other hyperbole. So what else is breaking news?