Should Trump or his officials be prosecuted by the DOJ?

A lot of people are talking about whether Trump officials should be prosecuted by the incoming DOJ.

What I can't figure out is what would they be prosecuted for? Did they actually commit crimes?

I'm thinking maybe DeJoy of USPS can be prosecuted for something, though I couldn't say exactly what.

Anybody else?


At a minimum, all of the lies should be publicly exposed to clearly show the self-dealing, etc.


I honestly don’t think Biden will go after Trump. Biden will ignore him, New York State will not. Let karma take him up the Hudson 


Biden is the President. He should appoint an AG that runs the DOJ fully independent from the WH or any other political influence. They should investigate anyone they suspect of illegal activities, and if they find evidence of wrongdoing: prosecute them. There should be no political or other considerations at play here.

Having said all of that, I suspect Trump is guilty of wrongdoing at both Federal and State level, which is why he will want to self-pardon or have Pence pardon him. And maybe he will try to cut a deal for NY State (doubtful if that will happen though).


If a case against Trump is air-tight then prosecute.  The worst outcome would be a prosecution and another non-conviction, which would let the Orange one continue his victim narrative.


You'd need near-certainty of a conviction to prosecute. Better DOJ just get out of the way, let the various civil suits and state-level investigations proceed.

It would be good to have official accountings on what exactly went on in the Trump admin. A report on the national failure on the coronavirus response, a report on the politicization of the justice department, a report on the degraded state of our intelligence and national security resources...


the Times happens to have a piece on this subject today


I thought the whole American system was based on the idea that all men are treated equal. Trump and Cohen committed a crime together. Cohen went to jail for it. If Trump walks, just because he is a political liability, then the US experiment fails.


Jaytee said:

I honestly don’t think Biden will go after Trump. Biden will ignore him, New York State will not. Let karma take him up the Hudson 

 Agree. I think even Biden said he wants to downplay any prosecution so as to limit future Trump news dominating the national conversation.

SDNY, yes! Keeps Biden adm. out of it and most people who love Trump hate NYC.


GL2 said:

Jaytee said:

I honestly don’t think Biden will go after Trump. Biden will ignore him, New York State will not. Let karma take him up the Hudson 

 Agree. I think even Biden said he wants to downplay any prosecution so as to limit future Trump news dominating the national conversation.

SDNY, yes! Keeps Biden adm. out of it and most people who love Trump hate NYC.

 City to Trump: Drop Dead


GL2 said:

 Agree. I think even Biden said he wants to downplay any prosecution so as to limit future Trump news dominating the national conversation.

SDNY, yes! Keeps Biden adm. out of it and most people who love Trump hate NYC.

 I don't see how you can keep Biden admin out of it while saying SDNY yes. SDNY is a federal DOJ entity.


Floyd said:

 ... SDNY is a federal DOJ entity.

 with great independence under administrations prior to the current one...


And aren't there also NY State charges?  Hope they'll run with those.  "Unpardonable," at least by the feds. : )


What would happen if the shoe was on the other foot?

"When they go low, we go high". And what does that get us?


Yes. Letitia James is the Attorney General of NY State.  She has been investigating Trump and the Trump Organization.

I will be interested to see if she issues an arrest warrant for citizen Trump, and he was at the time in the State of Florida, if Florida would then execute the warrant and take him into custody on behalf of New York.


I have said this before, but any arrests / prosecution should be based on whether someone broke the law, not based on politics. Biden should, and will, have zero input into whether or not the DOJ goes after Trump. If an ordinary citizen, say Michael Cohen, would go to jail for doing certain things, and Trump did the same things, then citizen Trump should go to jail too. Nothing more, but also nothing less. We shouldn't go after him because we don't like his politics, but we should also not let him off the hook because he has 72 million supporters.


GL2 said: 

SDNY, yes! Keeps Biden adm. out of it and most people who love Trump hate NYC.

Did you mean Vance’s office, GL2, rather than the Southern District?


DaveSchmidt said:

GL2 said: 

SDNY, yes! Keeps Biden adm. out of it and most people who love Trump hate NYC.

Did you mean Vance’s office, GL2, rather than the Southern District?

 Yes he does.


well, Ol' Bill is not holding back


drummerboy said:

well, Ol' Bill is not holding back

He knows his audience.

If I were Joe Biden I might call ol' Bill and ask him to tone it down until after the Electoral College votes. Tensions are high and I think there might be Republican officials who are teetering on the edge of making a bad choice, such as voting against certifying election results.  If it looks like the Democrats are sharpening the pitchforks for Donald, maybe partisanship pushes them in the wrong direction.  Like those two Michigan state legislators who are paying him a visit tomorrow.


Biden's illusion is the country will be healed and be more united if we're nice to Trump and his criminal allies.

The reality is as been shown historically with others like Trump is that Biden's niceness will be considered by them to be a weakness that can be advantaged in the regaining of power. Its also a another validation of "we, the elite, can do anything because they'll be no consequences."


Floyd said:

Biden's illusion is the country will be healed and be more united if we're nice to Trump and his criminal allies.

The reality is as been shown historically with others like Trump is that Biden's niceness will be considered by them to be a weakness that can be advantaged in the regaining of power. Its also a another validation of "we, the elite, can do anything because they'll be no consequences."

Okay, I think you make a good point. But here's other points to consider right now. Election Day was not a huge Democratic success. Control of the Senate rests on the results of the January 5th runoff in Georgia, a state which Biden won by a margin that could be best described as, well, marginal. Do we really need a lot of firey rhetoric that he's sending the DOJ on a hunting trip on January 21st? That's going to gin up the Trump base in GA.

I'd rather see him letting his DOJ do their thing quietly. And let NY State take care of Trump, his family and the whole Trump Organization. 


mrincredible said:

Floyd said:

Biden's illusion is the country will be healed and be more united if we're nice to Trump and his criminal allies.

The reality is as been shown historically with others like Trump is that Biden's niceness will be considered by them to be a weakness that can be advantaged in the regaining of power. Its also a another validation of "we, the elite, can do anything because they'll be no consequences."


I'd rather see him letting his DOJ do their thing quietly. And let NY State take care of Trump, his family and the whole Trump Organization. 

I'm really saying the same thing. Let them investigate and prosecute if needed. Don't be nice and give Trump, his family and his associates a free get out of jail pass simply because of who they are or were.  

Or they can be nice. Give them a forgiveness settlement and then watch them come back.


Floyd said:

Biden's illusion is the country will be healed and be more united if we're nice to Trump and his criminal allies.

The reality is as been shown historically with others like Trump is that Biden's niceness will be considered by them to be a weakness that can be advantaged in the regaining of power. Its also a another validation of "we, the elite, can do anything because they'll be no consequences."

I keep on saying this, President Biden should (and will) let the DOJ do its job independently. Biden wanting to play "nice" has nothing to do with whether DOJ goes after Trump. If they believe he broke the law, they should go after him. If they don't believe he broke the law, they shouldn't. They should absolutely not take their cues from Biden, and they should also absolutely not be intimidated by the 70 million votes he received.

And by the way, I think they probably know at this point that he broke the law (that's Cohen went to jail), so they will go after him. That's why Trump will self-pardon, or resign and have Pence pardon him. You watch.



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