Gee, I can't wait to go to the new mall.

Of course, whatever shoppers they get will be abandoning other malls in the area.


yahooyahoo said:

gonets said:

Triple 5 anticipates bringing in 40 million visitors a year. Bad reporting because the writer neglected to even investigate what the leadership of Triple5 was smoking to arrive at such a number. 

That's an average of 110,000 people per day based on 365 days per year.  We know there will be no shopping on Sundays.

This is from a recent article:

"Paramus' most lucrative shopping mall rivals Disney. Westfield Garden State Plaza beckons 20 million visitors per year, nearly matching the world's most popular theme park, which draws about 20.5 million visitors per year, and dwarfing the Eiffel Tower, which sees around 7 million visitors annually."

https://pix11.com/2019/03/11/paramus-beats-hollywood-and-disney-for-shopping-and-tourism/

So they are expecting 2x the number of customers that go to the Garden State Plaza in Paramus.  It has 2.1M square feet of shopping.  I've seen conflicting numbers for American Dream but it will have about 3M square feet.

That can’t be right for WDW. I think attendance is double or triple that per year.

This venue is huge and has many different elements. Their predictions seem way too high but I can imagine this could be a huge draw with all the different amusement parks. I think the Nickelodeon park will be a huge draw as will the water park. The shopping will be secondary to all of that.


conandrob240 said:

yahooyahoo said:

"Paramus' most lucrative shopping mall rivals Disney. Westfield Garden State Plaza beckons 20 million visitors per year, nearly matching the world's most popular theme park, which draws about 20.5 million visitors per year, and dwarfing the Eiffel Tower, which sees around 7 million visitors annually."

That can’t be right for WDW. I think attendance is double or triple that per year.

That’s the figure for the Magic Kingdom only. 

https://magicguides.com/disney-world-statistics/


I had no idea that a mall like the one in Paramus would draw 20 million people. That's crazy. Still think the American Dream mall is going to be a massive failure, but that's from someone who is floored by the amount of people going to a mall in Paramus.


Spouse took the kids to the American Dream mall today. They enjoyed the ice skating (room temperature, and you have an audience of the other mall-goers). There were teens walking with snowboards in the mall going to the ski area. 

Parking is free this week. It wasn't crowded. They got some gifts at the multi-story candy store. Not much else open yet in terms of shops.


sprout said:

Spouse took the kids to the American Dream mall today. They enjoyed the ice skating (room temperature, and you have an audience of the other mall-goers). There were teens walking with snowboards in the mall going to the ski area. 

Parking is free this week. It wasn't crowded. They got some gifts at the multi-story candy store. Not much else open yet in terms of shops.

 The ice skating looks fun and it's free, as is parking this week.  I might check that out.  I'll probably never go back again.  


Outdoor skiing is becoming increasingly rare in the East so we are going to spew a ####load of carbon to do it indoors? 

There is something particularly pathetic/disgusting about that.


Klinker said:

Outdoor skiing is becoming increasingly rare in the East so we are going to spew a ####load of carbon to do it indoors? 

There is something particularly pathetic/disgusting about that.

 The fitness center in our building has large windows that look out on The Secret Garden @ 377.  I feel the same way especially when I'm out working in our garden and can see people watching me  while getting an "artificial" walk...

Ron Carter

Sweatin' the old fashioned way!


Well-written critique, with some photos, of the new mall in the NY Times today by Amanda Hess:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/27/arts/american-dream-mall-opening.html?searchResultPosition=1


Once this place is fully open, the traffic will be a nightmare, especially when sports events occur at the same time.


unicorn33 said:

Once this place is fully open, the traffic will be a nightmare, especially when sports events occur at the same time.

 Once it goes out of business, there will be an awful lot of parking in the Meadowlands.


This reminds me of Tropical Island in Germany a little.  It feels a little like The Truman Show.  It was built in a old zeppelin factory.  We even slept in tents inside.  I think one thing that's annoying with spaces like this is the cavernous echoes you get due to the high ceilings.

https://www.tropical-islands.de/en/

Maybe that's more like the indoor water parks they have in PA.  The Dream Mall does have quite a bit more.



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