Can someone make Kanye just shut up?
What did he say this time?
ETA: Is this about his announcing that he is running for president in 2020?
Google the whole crazy, rambling mess. The president thing was the least of it.
“Bro! Bro! Listen to the kids! Jeremy, I got to put it down for a second. It's beautiful. Jeremy Scott designed it. First of all, thank you, Taylor, for being so gracious and giving me this award this evening. Thank you. [Cheers and applause]
And I often think back to the first day I met you also. You know, I think about when I'm in the grocery store with my daughter, and I have a really great conversation about fresh juice, you know, and at the end they say, "Oh, you're not that bad after all." And, like, I think about it sometimes like—it crosses my mind a little bit like when I go to a baseball game and 60,000 people boo me. It crosses my mind a little bit. [Cheers and applause]
And I think if I had to do it all again, what would I have done? Would I have worn a leather shirt? Would I have drank a half a bottle of Hennessey and gave the rest of it to the audience? Y'all know y'all drink that bottle, too. If I had a daughter at that time, would I have went on stage and grabbed the mic from someone else's? You know, this arena tomorrow, it's going to be a completely different setup, some concert, something like that. This stage will be gone. After that night, the stage was gone but the effect that it had on people remained. The—the problem was, the contradiction. The contradiction is I do fight for artists. But in that fight, I somehow was disrespectful to artists. I didn't know how to say the right thing, the perfect thing. I just—I sat at the Grammys and saw Justin Timberlake, and Cee-Lo lose. Gnarls Barkley, and—the "Sexy Back" album, and bro, Justin, I ain't trying to put you on blast, but I saw that man in tears, bro. You know. And I was thinking, like, he deserves to win Album of the Year.
And this small box that we are as the entertainers of the evening, how could you explain that? Sometimes I feel like, you know, all this going on about beef and all that, sometimes I feel like I died for the artist's opinion, for the artist to be able to have an opinion after they were successful. I'm not no politician, bro! And look at that. You know how many times MTV ran that footage again, because it got them more ratings? Do you know how many times they announced Taylor was going to give me the award because it got them more ratings? [Cheers and applause]
This is for the kids, bro! I still don't understand awards shows. I don't understand how they get five people who work their entire life, one that sold records, sold concert tickets, to come, stand on a carpet, and for the first time in their life be judged on a chopping block and have the opportunity to be considered a loser. I don't understand it, bro! I don't understand when the biggest album or the biggest video—I been conflicted, bro! I just wanted people to like me more! [Cheers and applause]
But ***** that, bro! 2015! I will die for the art, for what I believe in, and the art ain't always going to be polite. You might be thinking right now, I wonder, did he smoke something before he came out here? The answer is yes, I rolled up a little something, I knocked the edge off. [Cheers and applause]
I don't know what's going to happen tonight. I don't know what's going to happen tomorrow, bro. But all I can say to my artists, my fellow artists, just worry how you feel at the time, man. Just worry about how you feel and don't never—you know what I'm saying? I'm confident. I believe in myself. We the millennials, bro. This is a new mentality. We not going to control our kids with brands. We not going to teach low self-esteem and hate to our kids. We going to teach our kids that they can be something. We going to teach our kids that they can stand up for they self. We're going to teach our kids to believe in themselves. If my grandfather was here right now, he would not let me back down. I don't know what I stand to lose after this. It don't matter, though, because it ain't about me, it's about ideas, bro. New ideas. People with ideas, people who believe in truth. And yes, as you probably could have guessed by this moment, I have decided in 2020 to run for president.” [Cheers and applause]
TL; DR
If not for this thread I wouldn't have known about this important topic. So thanks for that.
Indeed. What I love about the vastness of the internet and the ridiculous amount of available channels on television is that I can easily avoid this *****. For example, I watched a delightfully uninformative fluff piece on PBS about the history of MI6 last night.
I thought he might be humble when he started. I thought he was going to say he grew up and he regretted being an ass. But it turned into same crazy rant where basically I think he was saying he wasn't sorry because he is the vessel sent to this world to defend art. At least I think that was his message. LO
I'm sorry, all I can hear in these threads is "that black man doesn't know his place" or "that black man scares me." I know none of you are racist, but I wish people would take some time to examine what makes them react so strongly to Kanye. Yes, he's an oddball and a provocateur, but what's wrong with that?
To say that someone needs to teach (sorry, "reach") him English is just offensive. His mother was an English professor! If you bother to read interviews with him, you'll see that he is extremely thoughtful and well-spoken..
I would not have guessed by that moment that he was going to announce he was running for president in 2020. Context is missing.
Gnarls Barkley did deserve to win that year, though! What an album
what is it he said there that is upsetting? From the transcipt above, I dont find anything particularly different than most acceptance speeches.
I didnt see it live, the WNBA, the NFL, Ray Donovan, were all things that I preferred to watch last night.
Kanye is a musical genius, not a politician. He's given us plenty of entertainment, I don't care what he says at awards shows.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyQpQhrQ5Zs
While I don't agree with his approach - he can be rude, arrogant and petulant - I think he's a great talent and had some interesting things to say about the black culture and music industry. And, he's not afraid to say the things many people are thinking. Case in point: Kanye's claim that "Bush doesn't care about black people". He said what many people were feeling in that moment, accurate or not.
So, he stands on the stage at the MTV awards - a vehicle tailor made for pop stars to act out and strut their stuff - and gives a rambling speech about his thoughts on his past behavior, the music industry, raising his daughter, etc. Are we really surprised? I would expect this if you put Kanye on the stage. I mean, they had Taylor Swift hand him the award. They were looking for provocation and he (kinda) delivered. This was soft stuff, imho.
I actually do find a lot of what he says very interesting. My only issue with him is he seems to think he's the arbiter of what is "good" music and not. Obviously the whole Imma Let You Finish Taylor Swift debacle was the pinnacle of that, but the fact that he semi-jokingly almost repeated it with Beck last year, and felt he was completely justified to do so, is crazy to me.
The racist comment is ridiculous. And it's not what he said that was upsetting (because it was hard to even decipher what he was saying); the comedy to me is that he made little sense. It was rambling, disjointed and a little kooky. It was as if there was no forethought, no practice at all. Just stream of consciousness of a man clearly a bit out of it. It wasn't upsetting in any way- it was a crazy rant-laughable in his delusions of grandeur and how incomprehensible it was. And, for the record, I've found many other celebrity rants and kooky acceptance speeches amusing in my day and most of the classics were from White performers. And of course he's a great talent. Many of the greats (shock- white and black!) are absolutely nuts or a-holes.
TarheelsInNj said:
I actually do find a lot of what he says very interesting. My only issue with him is he seems to think he's the arbiter of what is "good" music and not. Obviously the whole Imma Let You Finish Taylor Swift debacle was the pinnacle of that, but the fact that he semi-jokingly almost repeated it with Beck last year, and felt he was completely justified to do so, is crazy to me.
I don't think his beef is about what's good music or not. It's his contention that these awards tend to celebrate "safe" pop music. Same argument Nikki Minaj made about the MTV awards last month. I know, a bunch of wealthy musicians crowing about being marginalized, but it's what they feel, I guess.
yahooyahoo said:
His music sucks.
Now that's just stupid. Sorry.
No, not stupid. An opinion that many agree with and many do not.
imonlysleeping said:
yahooyahoo said:Now that's just stupid. Sorry.
His music sucks.
GGartrell said:
You could just change the chanel.
Wow. Thanks. I never thought of that
Believe it or not, I'm so clueless about celebrities that I didn't even know what race he is. (I didn't see the video, just read the transcript.) I just know that I couldn't make any sense at all of it. If that's racist, then I'm sorry, but I don't see how.
yahooyahoo said:
No, not stupid. An opinion that many agree with and many do not.
imonlysleeping said:
yahooyahoo said:Now that's just stupid. Sorry.
His music sucks.
It's a dumb opinion. Sorry.
I liked his speech. Kanye has many a-hole moments , but over all I think he is talented and very bright.
What did you like about it exactly? Talented, yes. Very bright? Probably not
imonlysleeping said:
I'm sorry, all I can hear in these threads is "that black man doesn't know his place" or "that black man scares me." I know none of you are racist, but I wish people would take some time to examine what makes them react so strongly to Kanye. Yes, he's an oddball and a provocateur, but what's wrong with that?
To say that someone needs to teach (sorry, "reach") him English is just offensive. His mother was an English professor! If you bother to read interviews with him, you'll see that he is extremely thoughtful and well-spoken..
Reach was obviously a typo. I was not commenting on his background, on his mother, on his talent, or on other interviews. My comments were based on his speech as reproduced above. He may be a thoughtful well spoken person but that is not in evidence here.
Based on some of the offensive behavior that has been well publicized, my impression is that he is not always a thoughtful person. I apologize if I offended you when I said he he needs to learn English, but based on this: "***** bro. I will die for the art.....and it ain't always gonna be polite.........we going to teach our kids to stand up for they self" and other ramblings I thought my assessment of his speech, grammar and English was not far off. He is obviously immensely talented, but just because people don't like his narcissistic behavior or his speech it doesn't make them racist.
conandrob240 said:
What did you like about it exactly? Talented, yes. Very bright? Probably not
Kanye is objectively very bright. You might have the (dumb) opinion that his music is bad, but his intelligence really is not up for debate.
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Does he actually think he is saying something profound? He sounds like the asshat he is. He should only be allowed to make music. He simply should not be allowed to speak publicly. If his wife wasn't so dumb, she' be trying to crawl under her chair.