Some Serious Facts Emerging on Mueller Investigation Today

New York Times reveals: Aside from the revelation that Trump directed White House (not his) lawyer, Don McGahn, to lobby AG Jeff Sessions not to recuse himself from the Russia investigation because the AG is "supposed to protect the POTUS, " (per trumps misconception),

There have appeared corroborative notes from none other than Reince Priebus, that Trump implored Comey to lay off of Flynn, thereby Trump committing obstruction of justice. So Comey' s testimony about this is backed up by considerably more than circumstantial evidence of Trump committing a federal crime.

So there. If you're wondering where this came from, watch MSNBC or, for details, check the Twitter feed of Seth Abramson, lawyer and social science professor.

ALSO, one of Trump's lawyers misled the president on purpose to protect the country. He told the president he couldnt fire the FBI director, because the lawyer was afraid if he fired Comey it would jeopardize the Trump Admin. Another lawyer witnessed how Trump changed the reported content of his son's meeting, and thought Trump had committed obstruction of justice, and so he quit.

Did you watch Rachel last night?? VERY SCARY. The FBI is turning on its own agents.

shoshannah said:

Did you watch Rachel last night?? VERY SCARY. The FBI is turning on its own agents.

Yes. I always watch her. It is very scary. I am really very pessimistic about America's future. 

Even  scarier is that today, Jeffrey Toobin tweets that he thinks the Camp David meeting, among other things, is covering how to subject whoever the Democratic candidate in 2020 is to FBI investigation. These people stand in the Vietnam era mythology of the  so-called crazy political left, to throw their partisan, personal attacks at any and every Democrat. 

peaceinourtime said:

Even  scarier is that today, Jeffrey Toobin tweets that he thinks the Camp David meeting, among other things, is covering how to subject whoever the Democratic candidate in 2020 is to FBI investigation. These people stand in the Vietnam era mythology of the  so-called crazy political left, to throw their partisan, personal attacks at any and every Democrat. 

If this is true the Dems must be prepared to fight fire with fire.

I agree, @Lost.  Here's Toobin's quote.

Unfortunately, it sounds plausible. 

Jeffrey Toobin

@JeffreyToobin

You heard it here first. There will be calls for a criminal investigation, and probably an actual F.B.I. investigation, of the Democratic nominee for President in 2020. Doesn't matter who it is.

LOST said:

peaceinourtime said:

Even  scarier is that today, Jeffrey Toobin tweets that he thinks the Camp David meeting, among other things, is covering how to subject whoever the Democratic candidate in 2020 is to FBI investigation. These people stand in the Vietnam era mythology of the  so-called crazy political left, to throw their partisan, personal attacks at any and every Democrat. 

If this is true the Dems must be prepared to fight fire with fire.

peaceinourtime said:

I agree, @Lost.  Here's Toobin's quote.

Unfortunately, it sounds plausible. 

@JeffreyToobin

You heard it here first. There will be calls for a criminal investigation, and probably an actual F.B.I. investigation, of the Democratic nominee for President in 2020. Doesn't matter who it is.

LOST said:

peaceinourtime said:

Even  scarier is that today, Jeffrey Toobin tweets that he thinks the Camp David meeting, among other things, is covering how to subject whoever the Democratic candidate in 2020 is to FBI investigation. These people stand in the Vietnam era mythology of the  so-called crazy political left, to throw their partisan, personal attacks at any and every Democrat. 

If this is true the Dems must be prepared to fight fire with fire.

If this is true, we are officially Russia.

At this rate there won't be a free election in 2018. The Republicans will have a game plan to ban elections.

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cramer said:

At this rate there won't be a free election in 2018. The Republicans will have a game plan to ban elections.

This is entirely possible.

shoshannah said:

cramer said:

At this rate there won't be a free election in 2018. The Republicans will have a game plan to ban elections.

This is entirely possible.

Anything is possible, but it's already 2018 and candidates have filed for office and have been raising money. There are Republicans running against incumbent Democrats in Red States.

They will try to rig certain elections and certainly try to surpress minority votes. That is what has to be fought vigorously.

LOST said:


They will try to rig certain elections and certainly try to surpress minority votes. That is what has to be fought vigorously.

It's this. No one would seriously suspend elections.  They'll just rig them through gerrymandering and voter suppression.  

We MUST get out the vote. There have to be 4 to 5 million more Democratic votes this time. It's not a federal election so each state needs to be carefully monitored at the voting sites. I watched as minority voters were sent running from one site to another in Easton, PA. This sort of thing is so outrageous. Advocates have to be assigned to sites and be available to the public!

ml1 said:

LOST said:


They will try to rig certain elections and certainly try to surpress minority votes. That is what has to be fought vigorously.

It's this. No one would seriously suspend elections.  They'll just rig them through gerrymandering and voter suppression.  

ml1 said:

LOST said:


They will try to rig certain elections and certainly try to surpress minority votes. That is what has to be fought vigorously.

It's this. No one would seriously suspend elections.  They'll just rig them through gerrymandering and voter suppression.  

Giuliani tried to suspend the mayoral election after 9/11 when his term due to term limit would have run out.

Wonder what will happen if Trump loses the 2020 by millions and he screams the election was invalid due to millions of illegals voting. Would the SC support him?

ml1 said:

LOST said:


They will try to rig certain elections and certainly try to surpress minority votes. That is what has to be fought vigorously.

It's this. No one would seriously suspend elections.  They'll just rig them through gerrymandering and voter suppression.  

Open up your thinking. Imagine the unimaginable. "No one would seriously suspend elections." Yeah, well consider these statements that someone, somewhere made before 2016:

"No one would seriously throw out 200,000 Salvadorans." 

"No president would seriously publicly denigrate the FBI and actively work to undermine it." 

"No one would allow off-shore drilling of the coast of NJ"

"No one would collude with the Russians to rig an election."

"No one would invite Russian press into the Oval Office and ban American press."

"No one would keep as an NS adviser a person who is on the payroll of foreign governments."

"No one would let CHIP expire and not renew it in some form or other."

"No one would ever proposed building a wall around the U.S."

"No president would ever invite his entire cabinet -- minus the Attorney General -- to Camp David."

"no one would ever appoint a neurosurgeon to be secretary of housing."

"No president would ever repeatedly and publicly call the media fake news."

Would you kindly delete some of the multiples of this?

Thanks,

Ron

rcarter31 said:

Would you kindly delete some of the multiples of this?

Thanks,

Ron

You talkin' to me? Multiples of what? I don't see dupes.